PerryB

Yeah, like the hippies (remember those) in their old VW busses on their way to environmental rallies.

papa tiger

Everything I have seen points to very hot steam/oil mix (mostly condensed down to about 99 parts water / 1 part coagulated oil mix coming out the drilled hole at first ( hot steam and oil will mix!) I would expect the motor produced it by running hottest times as it has shown the early 3.5L EB's did run very warm... Also the head design for oil passages are larger than say the 2.7L EB which has increased cooling passage routes and small oil passages to accommodate its design of no exhaust manifolds, internal exhaust system. I believe its design PCV system and front shutters have proven themselves adequate for the job !
I"m going to guess if Ford ever redesigns the 3.5L EB it will be along the lines of the 2.7L EB block design. But that's another thread starter to argue out ! Lol

beselby

Ok, changed the plugs, coil boots and cleaned the throttle body air sensors this weekend at the dealer. That was $750 of my $1188 service bill. The other $400 was in engine coolant flush and junction box and fuel pump wiring. The drive in to work (40 miles) did not experience misfire issues at all. I hope this lasts a while. At this rate I am thinking the the plugs and coil packs should be changed every 50 k miles. My last 2 fords went well over 100 k before I changed them going by dealer service techs.

engineermike

toledoUPSguy

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This BS is getting very annoying probably to anyone who has their subscriptions set up for instant email alerts.

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PerryB

Because the weep hole/catch can gets the crap out of the induction system. Ford's fix just renders the CAC essentially inoperative and sends the crap into the engine, but at least it's not in one big slug, which was the biggest problem. The hole/can works and works well.

beaker80

Years ago Volvo had an "Engineered" hole built into their intercooler to get rid of condensation. VW TDI's suffer so badly from condensation the it can freeze up their intercooler piping in the winter. VW owners have been drilling their lower hose for years.

I have a 2011 Ecoboost. My CAC is drilled with a fitting that can be capped off. I also have a catch can that catches the nastiest oil/water/chemical concoction imaginable (mostly in the winter).

My point is it's not new, as an owner you can do what you want (or not). Ford has laws it has to follow.

PSI-FX4

byoungblood

Rules change. I believe the previously mentioned vehicles that had a weep hole from the factory are much older models, and may even predate OBD-II.

I'd be surprised if anything built in the last 10 years has a factory weep hole unless its PCV system is designed in such a way that there is no way any crankcase vapors could be vented through said hole or recovered while allowing the moisture to be drained. In other words, it would have to be more elaborate than a simple hole.

elricfate

Howdy kids!

We're done with this argument all the way around, mmkay?

@lovinf150 -- you're done with this argument unless you want to find yourself in detention. If you think someone is a shill, cool, but don't clog up a thread because of it. PM him to accuse him, politely, and you two can decide from there if you want to continue interacting. If I see it in here further you will have every opportunity to "write a letter to the CEO", because I will ban you myself.

@engineermike -- don't feed the trolls.

Everyone else, chill and back on topic.