Ecoboost condensate drain hole, post your results here
06-13-2015, 08:10 AM
#1451
What is the brown PCV? Updated version from the dealer? If so, part number? I don't have a can -- but if its an OEM part I'd like to be proactive!
06-13-2015, 10:07 AM
#1452
King Hater
06-13-2015, 11:50 AM
#1453
Senior Member
Sorry don't know the part number. But it is a part of the latest fuel in oil TSB. Just go to the dealership and ask for the part, I really can't see it being expensive.
06-13-2015, 01:10 PM
#1454
Turbo can be a source of oil but it is not something you have to endure, and it is not a problem with every truck. Maybe it is worth looking at for some of the guys with acute problems. The cause of oil leak is likely outside the turbo. Restriction somewhere in the oil drain, elevated crankcase pressure, even a restrictive air intake. Anything that would cause excess flooding of oil at the compressor shaft seal, or cause an air pressure differential that forces oil past the seal.
06-29-2015, 11:15 AM
#1455
Senior Member
2012 Platinum 3.5 L ecoboost, at 55,000 on way to miss, notice slight shudder while cruising , cruise control on , when it encountered the slightest grade and needed to accelerate it would shudder, first thought transmission but knew it couldn't be that running 75mph in 6th gear. Thought it was bad gas or something and blew it off. It got worse, read up , replaced spark plugs , bought two new ignition coils and rotated those around , still shudder was getting worse.
Took to dealer , he said I put in wrong plugs, they changed and re flashed, problem still there. Took back in they charged me $75 for the stick on cover that covers bottom half of intercoller. Last month , driving from Atlanta to St Simmons island about 5 hours it got worse , generally problem didn't occur until running after about 40 minutes, The next morning in ST Simons not even 5 minutes into driving it starting shuddering so bad one after another one it was almost un drivable. Got back home, dealer kept for week, said they could find nothing wrong, but i did notice they had taken the bottom cover off intercooler.
I am out of warranty now with 69,000 miles. When I picked up from dealer , I got my drill and 1/16 bit , got under truck , found lowest point , drilled the hole. When I went to touch , just barely a little water oil mix on finger. I fired her up and went for a drive , I generally could make it shudder on demand on certain grades by applying just a little gas and it would do it every time. I could not make it shudder, i ran errands and all kind of driving got back under truck and you could see where it had blown water/oil mix on front air dam, not a lot but enough where you could see it looked like someone had wiped air dam clean in two inch section, It has not leaked in driveway one time.
It has been over a week now in hot humid Ga conditions and two rainstorms. I think it might have shuddered twice but it was so minor im not even sure. I have read all about the vacuum concerns , etc. I have as much power as i had when truck was brand new. My only other alternative until I drilled the hole was trading it in, but I love my truck and have it rigged, lifted, new tiers , etc and its paid for, I didn't want to trade.
Drilling the weep hole worked for me and I have my truck back. Thank you to all the guys that posted with fixes etc.
Took to dealer , he said I put in wrong plugs, they changed and re flashed, problem still there. Took back in they charged me $75 for the stick on cover that covers bottom half of intercoller. Last month , driving from Atlanta to St Simmons island about 5 hours it got worse , generally problem didn't occur until running after about 40 minutes, The next morning in ST Simons not even 5 minutes into driving it starting shuddering so bad one after another one it was almost un drivable. Got back home, dealer kept for week, said they could find nothing wrong, but i did notice they had taken the bottom cover off intercooler.
I am out of warranty now with 69,000 miles. When I picked up from dealer , I got my drill and 1/16 bit , got under truck , found lowest point , drilled the hole. When I went to touch , just barely a little water oil mix on finger. I fired her up and went for a drive , I generally could make it shudder on demand on certain grades by applying just a little gas and it would do it every time. I could not make it shudder, i ran errands and all kind of driving got back under truck and you could see where it had blown water/oil mix on front air dam, not a lot but enough where you could see it looked like someone had wiped air dam clean in two inch section, It has not leaked in driveway one time.
It has been over a week now in hot humid Ga conditions and two rainstorms. I think it might have shuddered twice but it was so minor im not even sure. I have read all about the vacuum concerns , etc. I have as much power as i had when truck was brand new. My only other alternative until I drilled the hole was trading it in, but I love my truck and have it rigged, lifted, new tiers , etc and its paid for, I didn't want to trade.
Drilling the weep hole worked for me and I have my truck back. Thank you to all the guys that posted with fixes etc.
Thanks, your experience has me considering this myself. I live in NW Florida and have a hunting camp in SW Alabama and many times making that drive I hit thunderstorms and the truck bogs down when I try to make a pass, very dangerous situation on a 2 lane highway. My truck is currently in the shop for turbos not working at all so once they get that problem fixed I'll drive it and see if the problem happens again, if it does then I'll be drilling the hole. I have over 50,000 miles on it and Ford has no fix for the bog down in the rain problem so time to see if this will fix mine if the problem is still there.
06-29-2015, 07:35 PM
#1456
Had my issue saturday, after driving in pouring rain, and then accelerating to leave an underpowered chrysler that couldn't keep a steady speed in rolling hills on I-70 ! I got an immediate loss of power, a stutter and a blinking CEL for 2-3 miles. Took it into the shop today under warranty, (2013 Lariat S/C EB with 13,500 Mi) and nothing could be found in the computer.....nor could it be reproduced!!!!!!!!!! They said that several last cycles were reviewed, and NOTHING was found, but that I should monitor it. You can be sure that it will be monitored, and the Chevy that I test drove immediately afterward was very quiet, but overall....no way any kind of match for my 2013 F150 S/C EB...... They also said that they contacted Ford and that they didn't have a clue to the problem.....so that gives me a very bad feeling about Ford's honesty. Maybe after 52 years of driving Fords, maybe Ford doesn't deserve my loyalty any more!
06-30-2015, 08:51 AM
#1457
drill the hole
Ford knows exactly what is causing these issues. If the dealer says they "don't have A clue", they are lying to you. Only fix is a catch can or drilling the hole. I drilled the hole a year ago after many, many loss of power episodes. Not 1 issue since.
06-30-2015, 10:36 AM
#1458
Senior Member
Fellow over at ecoboost forum stated even with an upgraded wagner intercooler and a catch can, his truck till shuddered and puked. Inspected his CAC and found 1/4 cup of water in it.
06-30-2015, 11:19 AM
#1459
Senior Member
If a intercooler is doing its job, it will COOL the incoming air charge. In doing so, some of the moisture in that air will condense and go to the bottom of the IC. Regardless what brand IC you have, if it is cooling, it is condensing. If the outside air is more humid, more water may condense out of it. If you make the IC less efficient by putting shields to block air flow or plastic inserts inside, you will limit the condensation. But now, you have a CAC that doesn't cool the incoming charge like what the whole purpose of having it is.
06-30-2015, 11:28 AM
#1460
Senior Member
If a intercooler is doing its job, it will COOL the incoming air charge. In doing so, some of the moisture in that air will condense and go to the bottom of the IC. Regardless what brand IC you have, if it is cooling, it is condensing. If the outside air is more humid, more water may condense out of it. If you make the IC less efficient by putting shields to block air flow or plastic inserts inside, you will limit the condensation. But now, you have a CAC that doesn't cool the incoming charge like what the whole purpose of having it is.
I bought a second hand Wagner and it had a ton of moisture in it before I cleaned it.
Youre absolute best insurance is to drill a hole in your stock intercooler. Before doing so, remove it, drill the hole, clean it and reinstall it, that is the best solution to the problem. Although this may not totally resolve it as the moisture that causes the issue largely collects on the fins of the cooler and is swept into the intake upon boost. Knowing what causes the issue, being aware of your ambient conditions, occasionally getting into boost to keep it clean and drilling the hole is about as good as it gets.
Oh and the catch can has nothing to do with this.
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