Ron AKA

This appears to be a forum with a high % of morons where any intelligent technical discussion is a lost cause. Are there no moderators here to control this crap?

millwrat

https://www.gunandgame.com/threads/advice-please.54451/

papa tiger

When an engine guy tells you it is a broken adjuster that caused the chain to break U need to believe it. When it comes to chain wear versus sprocket wear U need to take into account the ratio of the installation. In internal combustion engines usually the crank shaft turns at twice the revolutions to the camshaft. This would put the timing marks coming up with each other every 2nd revolution. In a modern motor the chain is much longer and it takes more revolutions to get the marks to line up. Every thing turns the same except the chain. It is longer. The gears are ratio matched not the chain.

Ron AKA

The timing problem a "stretched" chain creates is another issue. I was speaking to the accelerated wear issue.

bobkyle2

Papa,IT anyone else.... Drop it and move on. Oil threads should be a felony. Everyone gets messy.

Yes, I'm here. Do not degrade other members.



I still love you all long time.

Ron AKA

To be clear I initiated this thread to get information about the gasoline dilution problem with the EcoBoost engine. Ford has a TSB to address the issue. I was trying to find out if anyone who had the TSB done, had measured (with UOA) any improvement. My conclusion is that the answer is NO. At least there is no evidence I can find that the problem has been solved. With the information gathered since the original post, I have concluded that the only way to address this issue with the EcoBoost is to use thicker oil. Changing the oil more frequently does not work. One of the worst gasoline diluted oil samples was from the shortest change interval. It is quite possible that your oil is saturated with gasoline within 100 miles or so after you leave the dealer. This is not an "oil thread". It is about a serious design problem with the EcoBoost engine. It appears many here are in denial that the problem exists, and use that as an excuse to throw insults at those who want to discuss it. I just read through the "broken timing chain" thread, all 250+ posts, and the same issue exists there. The OP has obviously left thinking there is no hope intelligently discussing the issue here.

papa tiger

I to have to decide. 60's oil ( 5/10W ) oil was better than 40/50's motor oil and each oil lateron was better than its predisesor for more than 1 reason. No reason for me to continue this witch hunt !

itguy08

Awww shucks. We love you too.

phantomblackgto

Unlike yourself, I AM an Ecoboost owner. I provided you a proven solution to the oil dilution problem that I also was experiencing. You did not want to hear it or accept it as a solution. You only challenged the benefits based on your preconceived misunderstanding of the solution. I'm finding it hard to see what qualifies you to call some of us out as morons. Like I said before, buy the f***in' Toyota and be done with it. I'm sure the Tundra boys will enjoy you much more than we do here.

RMR-F150

Is fuel in the oil good? No. It is causing premature component wear to things like the timing chain/tensioners? Maybe. Is it the root cause of the problems some are having with the engine? Maybe, but currently there is insufficient data. More oil analysis samples are need from engines both with the problem, and from engines that have gone 100,000+ miles without the problem. I don't deny there may be an issue and that a different weight oil may help. But, I feel the sample size is too small to make a conclusion. More data is needed. Only time will tell.