Disappointing SSI Review
05-04-2015, 08:16 AM
#131
Super Moderator
Disappointing SSI Review
It is very odd that your truck seems to behave differently than everyone else's truck. Did you actually do the things you said you did?
FYI - An intake will do nothing whatsoever, unless your stocker is completely clogged.
That said, for any others that review this thread - a couple of things:
1. Ensure all of your hoses / clamps are tight.
2. Run iridium tipped plugs gapped at .028. These will need to be replaced more regularly than you might think - ~30K mi. side note: The Brisk plugs were prone to fail, though apparently SSI was supposed to know that would happen before it actually happened. lol
3. Clean your sensors regularly - and it may be necessary to REPLACE sensors. Cleaning a failed part will do nothing other than resulting in a clean failed part.
4. Ensure your air filter is clean.
So, there are a couple of thoughts for you and others.
At the end of the day Rockhound, you are from F150.net and are part of a group of SSI haters. It would be child's play to drum up your posts and show your actual intent for you original and subsequent posts.
What I do appreciate is guys coming into this thread and trying to help others with the issues their truck might be experiencing. However, for the masses who's trucks are SSI tuned, it is pretty clear this is not the place to get dedicated help.
So, to your original post - and to those reading the thread:
1. Shawn delivers customer service unlike any other tuner. He is directly available to you more than any other tuner.
2. Shawn has an understanding of the platform that no other tuner has; by far and bar none.
3. The SSI community is very helpful. A couple of Ford guys are part of the set of patrons - and are ready and willing to help with other customer's questions.
*****4. If you are just someone that likes to pick fights, because that is who you are - I strongly recommend another tuner. You will quickly find yourself swimming upstream.
FYI - An intake will do nothing whatsoever, unless your stocker is completely clogged.
That said, for any others that review this thread - a couple of things:
1. Ensure all of your hoses / clamps are tight.
2. Run iridium tipped plugs gapped at .028. These will need to be replaced more regularly than you might think - ~30K mi. side note: The Brisk plugs were prone to fail, though apparently SSI was supposed to know that would happen before it actually happened. lol
3. Clean your sensors regularly - and it may be necessary to REPLACE sensors. Cleaning a failed part will do nothing other than resulting in a clean failed part.
4. Ensure your air filter is clean.
So, there are a couple of thoughts for you and others.
At the end of the day Rockhound, you are from F150.net and are part of a group of SSI haters. It would be child's play to drum up your posts and show your actual intent for you original and subsequent posts.
What I do appreciate is guys coming into this thread and trying to help others with the issues their truck might be experiencing. However, for the masses who's trucks are SSI tuned, it is pretty clear this is not the place to get dedicated help.
So, to your original post - and to those reading the thread:
1. Shawn delivers customer service unlike any other tuner. He is directly available to you more than any other tuner.
2. Shawn has an understanding of the platform that no other tuner has; by far and bar none.
3. The SSI community is very helpful. A couple of Ford guys are part of the set of patrons - and are ready and willing to help with other customer's questions.
*****4. If you are just someone that likes to pick fights, because that is who you are - I strongly recommend another tuner. You will quickly find yourself swimming upstream.
I'm still standing by what I said about these trucks. Not all are the same, and they react differently to tunes. Some just don't work well with some tunes at all.
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RockhoundF150 (05-04-2015)
05-04-2015, 08:59 AM
#132
How is he an SSI hater? I could understand of he didn't put any effort whatsoever to fix the problem. From what he's stated though, he genuinely tried to fix the issue; weather it was trying to contact Shawn via phone and email and try to work out the issues that way, or going through different forms of maintenance and services that would be necessary.
I'm still standing by what I said about these trucks. Not all are the same, and they react differently to tunes. Some just don't work well with some tunes at all.
I'm still standing by what I said about these trucks. Not all are the same, and they react differently to tunes. Some just don't work well with some tunes at all.
I know one or two of them will respond to this but I don't even care. The worst thing is I am responding to what they say and not even about SSI. They don't realize the damage they are doing by just totally discounting other members posts.
Good luck all and peace out!
05-04-2015, 09:56 AM
#133
None of these 'critical maintenance' points were even mentioned as being potential issues going back months ago. The 'critical maintenance' issue was plug gap, specifically because the pre-13s were gapped so inconsistently. SSI tried to solve this by selling Brisk plugs, which were ****e, and then just recommending gapping the stock plugs.
I had also bought a S&B intake when they first came out, and despite your claim that an intake will do nothing, Shawn tried to blame that S&B on all my tune problems prior to removing it ( even problems from before the intake was installed ). He will latch onto one thing that can possibly give him an out, and scream 'it's the truck not the tune' and apply that to every problem you had.
If your truck still has tune problems, it's quite simply a laundry list of what he's not doing wrong and what you are. Cleaning three sensors, gapping your plugs correctly and making sure a few hoseclamps ( once you get a bearing on how to get to them ) are tight is not exactly rocket science - but there sure is a determined effort to make people that have problems seem absolutely retarded so the claim can be made that, even these basic steps, cannot be done by the end user.
05-04-2015, 02:16 PM
#134
Senior Member
IF IT WAS MAP SENSORS AND THEY ARE SUCH A COMMON PROBLEM WHY WAS I TOLD TO PAY TO UPGRADE THE TUNE MULTIPLE TIMES?
I would've gladly cleaned them or done more, or even paid to have it done, believe me I had it in for service multiple times...then the beta tune then Shawn asking 'please don't post this issue on my forum, the [derogative] guys will be all over this and create too much drama. I will get this right, just give me some time.' So I spent months working with him.
It does seem the fan boy club is over the top. I do appreciate the guidance, but unfortunately with my experience with Shawn was he was overwhelmed and missed very important details many times, for me it was enough. Again I am glad your experience has been good/great.
So the MAP sensors aren't cleaned by Ford during regular maintenance? Possibly it could be the issue along with whatever else, but seems a bit odd I never had the problem with the stock tune, especially with knowing how hard I worked it with the stock tune, towing 1200 miles every 2-3rd weekend or so for 5 plus months over passes and pretty steep grades along with high altitude driving.
Air filter was replaced at least a couple of times during the tune. As to hoses, those were all checked and re-checked.
I too had the same issue as Rockhound, from his last description, 70 mph mark was the issue. Only way I could make it go away was downshifting or letting off the throttle, and once in a while I had to downshift to 3rd....seemed to me at too low of RPM's and a slight load (slight uphill, strong wind, towing) the turbos would over spool, then the blow off would operate and there's the surge. I've logged via my handheld tuner at least 30 of those events, sent Shawn a number of them, problem never solved....
BTW my mileage was okay, not stellar, quite poor towing, but to be expected. I could get 17.5, and carried an extra ~400 lbs in the bed (chains, tools, etc)so since I seen the comment guys with dirty map sensors getting poor mileage....
I would've gladly cleaned them or done more, or even paid to have it done, believe me I had it in for service multiple times...then the beta tune then Shawn asking 'please don't post this issue on my forum, the [derogative] guys will be all over this and create too much drama. I will get this right, just give me some time.' So I spent months working with him.
It does seem the fan boy club is over the top. I do appreciate the guidance, but unfortunately with my experience with Shawn was he was overwhelmed and missed very important details many times, for me it was enough. Again I am glad your experience has been good/great.
So the MAP sensors aren't cleaned by Ford during regular maintenance? Possibly it could be the issue along with whatever else, but seems a bit odd I never had the problem with the stock tune, especially with knowing how hard I worked it with the stock tune, towing 1200 miles every 2-3rd weekend or so for 5 plus months over passes and pretty steep grades along with high altitude driving.
Air filter was replaced at least a couple of times during the tune. As to hoses, those were all checked and re-checked.
I too had the same issue as Rockhound, from his last description, 70 mph mark was the issue. Only way I could make it go away was downshifting or letting off the throttle, and once in a while I had to downshift to 3rd....seemed to me at too low of RPM's and a slight load (slight uphill, strong wind, towing) the turbos would over spool, then the blow off would operate and there's the surge. I've logged via my handheld tuner at least 30 of those events, sent Shawn a number of them, problem never solved....
BTW my mileage was okay, not stellar, quite poor towing, but to be expected. I could get 17.5, and carried an extra ~400 lbs in the bed (chains, tools, etc)so since I seen the comment guys with dirty map sensors getting poor mileage....
Last edited by gwpfan; 05-04-2015 at 02:21 PM. Reason: BTW
05-04-2015, 03:56 PM
#135
Cowboy of the Skies
I tried one on my last mustang......was so unhappy i got rid of it.
While chatting with guys and gals at the Ashcroft drag strip year after year, i hear of too many problems with them.
For those who have good success, glad for you.
But not all of us do!
While chatting with guys and gals at the Ashcroft drag strip year after year, i hear of too many problems with them.
For those who have good success, glad for you.
But not all of us do!
05-05-2015, 10:16 AM
#136
Senior Member
IF IT WAS MAP SENSORS AND THEY ARE SUCH A COMMON PROBLEM WHY WAS I TOLD TO PAY TO UPGRADE THE TUNE MULTIPLE TIMES?
I would've gladly cleaned them or done more, or even paid to have it done, believe me I had it in for service multiple times...then the beta tune then Shawn asking 'please don't post this issue on my forum, the [derogative] guys will be all over this and create too much drama. I will get this right, just give me some time.' So I spent months working with him.
It does seem the fan boy club is over the top. I do appreciate the guidance, but unfortunately with my experience with Shawn was he was overwhelmed and missed very important details many times, for me it was enough. Again I am glad your experience has been good/great.
So the MAP sensors aren't cleaned by Ford during regular maintenance? Possibly it could be the issue along with whatever else, but seems a bit odd I never had the problem with the stock tune, especially with knowing how hard I worked it with the stock tune, towing 1200 miles every 2-3rd weekend or so for 5 plus months over passes and pretty steep grades along with high altitude driving.
Air filter was replaced at least a couple of times during the tune. As to hoses, those were all checked and re-checked.
I too had the same issue as Rockhound, from his last description, 70 mph mark was the issue. Only way I could make it go away was downshifting or letting off the throttle, and once in a while I had to downshift to 3rd....seemed to me at too low of RPM's and a slight load (slight uphill, strong wind, towing) the turbos would over spool, then the blow off would operate and there's the surge. I've logged via my handheld tuner at least 30 of those events, sent Shawn a number of them, problem never solved....
BTW my mileage was okay, not stellar, quite poor towing, but to be expected. I could get 17.5, and carried an extra ~400 lbs in the bed (chains, tools, etc)so since I seen the comment guys with dirty map sensors getting poor mileage....
I would've gladly cleaned them or done more, or even paid to have it done, believe me I had it in for service multiple times...then the beta tune then Shawn asking 'please don't post this issue on my forum, the [derogative] guys will be all over this and create too much drama. I will get this right, just give me some time.' So I spent months working with him.
It does seem the fan boy club is over the top. I do appreciate the guidance, but unfortunately with my experience with Shawn was he was overwhelmed and missed very important details many times, for me it was enough. Again I am glad your experience has been good/great.
So the MAP sensors aren't cleaned by Ford during regular maintenance? Possibly it could be the issue along with whatever else, but seems a bit odd I never had the problem with the stock tune, especially with knowing how hard I worked it with the stock tune, towing 1200 miles every 2-3rd weekend or so for 5 plus months over passes and pretty steep grades along with high altitude driving.
Air filter was replaced at least a couple of times during the tune. As to hoses, those were all checked and re-checked.
I too had the same issue as Rockhound, from his last description, 70 mph mark was the issue. Only way I could make it go away was downshifting or letting off the throttle, and once in a while I had to downshift to 3rd....seemed to me at too low of RPM's and a slight load (slight uphill, strong wind, towing) the turbos would over spool, then the blow off would operate and there's the surge. I've logged via my handheld tuner at least 30 of those events, sent Shawn a number of them, problem never solved....
BTW my mileage was okay, not stellar, quite poor towing, but to be expected. I could get 17.5, and carried an extra ~400 lbs in the bed (chains, tools, etc)so since I seen the comment guys with dirty map sensors getting poor mileage....
05-05-2015, 10:26 PM
#139
This threads become nothing more than a personal pis?!ng match over whos more butthurt. If you have positive or negative info drop it otherwise take it to private conversations.
That being said i do run ssi because it is a superior product. However it may take input and effort from both parties to get conpletely dialed in. Ive had my issues with how ssi has done business and if it conflicted enough id walk away but again ive never had enough problems with a tune to walk away.
That being said i do run ssi because it is a superior product. However it may take input and effort from both parties to get conpletely dialed in. Ive had my issues with how ssi has done business and if it conflicted enough id walk away but again ive never had enough problems with a tune to walk away.
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brucesears (05-10-2015)
05-05-2015, 10:31 PM
#140
This threads become nothing more than a personal pis?!ng match over whos more butthurt from both parties. If you have positive or negative info drop it otherwise take it to private conversations.
That being said i do run ssi because it is a superior product. However it may take input and effort from both parties to get completely dialed in. Ive had my issues with how ssi has done business and if it conflicted enough id walk away but again ive never had enough problems to walk away completely. There are updates and for the most part if yiuve bought within a certain time frame hes good about updating but if you let yourself get 4 gens/revs behind on 3 tunes he may want an update fee. That being said ive seen numerous tuner as well as tune giveaways the past few years from ssi. And some dang good 2 or 3 tune special pricing.
That being said i do run ssi because it is a superior product. However it may take input and effort from both parties to get completely dialed in. Ive had my issues with how ssi has done business and if it conflicted enough id walk away but again ive never had enough problems to walk away completely. There are updates and for the most part if yiuve bought within a certain time frame hes good about updating but if you let yourself get 4 gens/revs behind on 3 tunes he may want an update fee. That being said ive seen numerous tuner as well as tune giveaways the past few years from ssi. And some dang good 2 or 3 tune special pricing.