Definitive Full Race Motorsports Eco-Boost Thread
01-20-2015, 10:24 AM
#631
They are Biker Perfection, with the TIG welding sweet ! :>)
01-20-2015, 10:32 AM
#632
Senior Member
Notice the high mark red arrow. Let's just say this thing is fun
01-20-2015, 11:07 AM
#633
Geoff or Geno:
For the K03/K04, what kind of gains are there with the stock WG? How about with bolt-ons; full exhuast, intake and CAC, etc? Any idea on the potential gains once the fuel system issues are worked out?
If the EFR is making 500whp on low boost, what kind of torque is it putting down? What do you see being realistically and safely achievable power levels for a daily driver with a conservative tune/boost level?
Not trying to be nosey, I know these aren't up for sale yet and I'm sure not all the numbers can be released until they're definite, just curious for any info y'all can give. This definitely seems like the best route for solid power gains, without having to add Meth, and/or pushing the engine too hard.
For the K03/K04, what kind of gains are there with the stock WG? How about with bolt-ons; full exhuast, intake and CAC, etc? Any idea on the potential gains once the fuel system issues are worked out?
If the EFR is making 500whp on low boost, what kind of torque is it putting down? What do you see being realistically and safely achievable power levels for a daily driver with a conservative tune/boost level?
Not trying to be nosey, I know these aren't up for sale yet and I'm sure not all the numbers can be released until they're definite, just curious for any info y'all can give. This definitely seems like the best route for solid power gains, without having to add Meth, and/or pushing the engine too hard.
please double check, maybe hit refresh? It is working for me: http://www.full-race.com/store/ecobo...ir-intake.html
hey greg - no need to remove the engine cover or anything else, this is a plug and play upgrade
For 90% of ecoboost F150 modders, these new K03/K04 turbos make more sense... simple plug and play bolt-ons (total sleeper). Geno is proving an excellent match for 100% stock fuel system on the stock Wastegate springs. You can install stiffer wg's and run these K03/04s out of fuel.. whereas EFR is a hardcore aftermarket turbo kit and makes 500whp detuned on low boost..
thanks! thats awesome you joined this site just to post here
in response:
-the compressor wheel upgrade was scrapped, we will no longer offer this service due to the high cost of remanufacturing the turbos on a HSCB (high speed core balancer). I know there are guys successfully using low speed balancers but that is a significant compromise. As a result we are only offering brand new upgrade turbos
-we have the EFR6258 turbos making 507whp at low boost, maxxed out the fuel system. This is the way to go for guys that want big power
-EFR uses different manifolds, turbos, upper downpipe adaptor, and hotside charge pipes. It uses the same intercooler, cold pipe, y pipe, exhaust and intake airbox
heres a brief fueling update:
-we had the meth injection working but disabled it for now.
-GDI injectors being tested now
-with the feedback and data from the first sets...the next generation of aftermarket GDI injectors are currently in development and hope to have these available for purchase march/april timeframe
-we have an complete intank fuel pump assembly upgrade finished with development, available april/may
-we are working with 2 partners for a legitimate dual injection solution
its slow going, but we are doing it right
hey greg - no need to remove the engine cover or anything else, this is a plug and play upgrade
For 90% of ecoboost F150 modders, these new K03/K04 turbos make more sense... simple plug and play bolt-ons (total sleeper). Geno is proving an excellent match for 100% stock fuel system on the stock Wastegate springs. You can install stiffer wg's and run these K03/04s out of fuel.. whereas EFR is a hardcore aftermarket turbo kit and makes 500whp detuned on low boost..
thanks! thats awesome you joined this site just to post here
in response:-the compressor wheel upgrade was scrapped, we will no longer offer this service due to the high cost of remanufacturing the turbos on a HSCB (high speed core balancer). I know there are guys successfully using low speed balancers but that is a significant compromise. As a result we are only offering brand new upgrade turbos
-we have the EFR6258 turbos making 507whp at low boost, maxxed out the fuel system. This is the way to go for guys that want big power
-EFR uses different manifolds, turbos, upper downpipe adaptor, and hotside charge pipes. It uses the same intercooler, cold pipe, y pipe, exhaust and intake airbox
heres a brief fueling update:
-we had the meth injection working but disabled it for now.
-GDI injectors being tested now
-with the feedback and data from the first sets...the next generation of aftermarket GDI injectors are currently in development and hope to have these available for purchase march/april timeframe
-we have an complete intank fuel pump assembly upgrade finished with development, available april/may
-we are working with 2 partners for a legitimate dual injection solution
its slow going, but we are doing it right
01-20-2015, 11:52 AM
#634
Senior Member
Geoff or Geno:
For the K03/K04, what kind of gains are there with the stock WG? How about with bolt-ons; full exhuast, intake and CAC, etc? Any idea on the potential gains once the fuel system issues are worked out?
If the EFR is making 500whp on low boost, what kind of torque is it putting down? What do you see being realistically and safely achievable power levels for a daily driver with a conservative tune/boost level?
Not trying to be nosey, I know these aren't up for sale yet and I'm sure not all the numbers can be released until they're definite, just curious for any info y'all can give. This definitely seems like the best route for solid power gains, without having to add Meth, and/or pushing the engine too hard.
For the K03/K04, what kind of gains are there with the stock WG? How about with bolt-ons; full exhuast, intake and CAC, etc? Any idea on the potential gains once the fuel system issues are worked out?
If the EFR is making 500whp on low boost, what kind of torque is it putting down? What do you see being realistically and safely achievable power levels for a daily driver with a conservative tune/boost level?
Not trying to be nosey, I know these aren't up for sale yet and I'm sure not all the numbers can be released until they're definite, just curious for any info y'all can give. This definitely seems like the best route for solid power gains, without having to add Meth, and/or pushing the engine too hard.
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01-20-2015, 12:06 PM
#635
Senior Member
I'd be intreged to see some dynos when it is done. I don't race but I tow alot in the summer so looking for as much low end power as possible. A little extra lag doesn't bother me.
01-20-2015, 12:13 PM
#636
Senior Member
I have towed about 5000 pounds with this setup quite a few times already. It towed outstanding
01-20-2015, 12:34 PM
#637
Senior Member
01-20-2015, 01:48 PM
#638
Senior Member
I'm actually surprised that the price was so low on the pro stock downpipe I picked up. It's on a completely different level compared to anything else on the market. Literally every single aspect is better. The materials used, weld quality, ease of installation, superior flange design, etc. I have the off road version and am running it with the factory exhaust. I have no weird noises or raspyness and it doesn't leak at all.
I don't really have any good pictures of it installed since it was late by the time I wrapped up the install.
I don't really have any good pictures of it installed since it was late by the time I wrapped up the install.
Don't know how I missed this thread.
Will be giving Geoff a call about my Eco Project
01-20-2015, 03:02 PM
#639
I'm actually surprised that the price was so low on the pro stock downpipe I picked up. It's on a completely different level compared to anything else on the market. Literally every single aspect is better. The materials used, weld quality, ease of installation, superior flange design, etc. I have the off road version and am running it with the factory exhaust. I have no weird noises or raspyness and it doesn't leak at all.
I don't really have any good pictures of it installed since it was late by the time I wrapped up the install.
I don't really have any good pictures of it installed since it was late by the time I wrapped up the install.
thank you!! that post just made my day... this F150 downpipe was one of the most difficult and gratifying product releases. We literally purchased every competitor downpipe to reverse engineer... more effort was spent obsessing over every bend, weld location, hangar position, flange design or merge collector config than i care to remember. The end result is a 10/10 downpipe with killer price tagin the turbo industry, we are best known for our TIG welding
you can thank Geoff and me for that. Geoff for not being satisfied until it was perfect. And me for installing it and doing it over and over and over again finding all the little issues that took skin off lol... seriously though I put this pipe on so many times I can do it in about 45 min now. Every time we did it geoff made this thing better
...can't wait for you to install the stiff Wastegate springs
For the K03/K04, what kind of gains are there with the stock WG? How about with bolt-ons; full exhuast, intake and CAC, etc? Any idea on the potential gains once the fuel system issues are worked out? This definitely seems like the best route for solid power gains, without having to add Meth, and/or pushing the engine too hard.
these are two different animals - The EFR setup is 850hp worth of turbos, and detuned heavily to produce only 500hp. this setup is a true bolt-on plug and play "sleeper" twin turbo kit
