Custom Ecoboost Intercooler Washer Fluid Spray Kit
#11
Senior Member
CO2 Canisters work better. Or just set it up for a meth/water injection, you'll need an actual nozzle then to spray, and you'd have to tap the intake close to the manifold, but you'd see huge differences with that compared to IC cooling. Fun idea though. DieselDawg I actually did the same thing on my 87 TII. Miss that car, it was so much fun.
- Steiner
- Steiner
#12
In the 70's they had a system like this to help the cooling system of vehicles pulling up big hills in the heat. It seems like everything used to overheat in the 70's-80's! I think VaporCool was the original name. I made a sytem for my dads motorhome from a hardware store after almost not making it up a hill in the summer. It was crude, and sued a Hudson sprayer, but it definately works.
I think you will see nice consistant cooling with the washer system on the intercooler while pulling loads in the heat. It would be cool to wire it to a temp switch or somethng.....
I think you will see nice consistant cooling with the washer system on the intercooler while pulling loads in the heat. It would be cool to wire it to a temp switch or somethng.....
#13
Senior Member
Why not just run meth injection if you're looking for some real hp, this seems very primative IMO. I understand how it works but to do that for a few hp doesn't make sense. Are you running a tune yet?
#14
Senior Member
Do some data recovery first. See what the IATs are doing in different situations like towing a heavy trailer up a long grade, hot lapping at a track, or spirited stop light to stop light driving. If the IATs aren't getting out of whack, you are wasting your time with additional cooling for the intercooler. The only time you would benefit from a system like this would be in situations where your IATs are sky rocketing causing a reduction in timing, increase in fuel mixture, thus a loss in power. You need to derive a baseline in order to compare your results. I have a funny feeling that the intercooler is sized correctly since we are dealing with a truck with lots of space. The real test for intercooler efficency would be towing a long steep grade with 7,000# in 100+ DegF temps.
#15
Senior Member
Do some data recovery first. See what the IATs are doing in different situations like towing a heavy trailer up a long grade, hot lapping at a track, or spirited stop light to stop light driving. If the IATs aren't getting out of whack, you are wasting your time with additional cooling for the intercooler. The only time you would benefit from a system like this would be in situations where your IATs are sky rocketing causing a reduction in timing, increase in fuel mixture, thus a loss in power. You need to derive a baseline in order to compare your results. I have a funny feeling that the intercooler is sized correctly since we are dealing with a truck with lots of space. The real test for intercooler efficency would be towing a long steep grade with 7,000# in 100+ DegF temps.
Exactly, I bet this intercooler is more efficient than it needs to be to account for heavy towing under high heat situations, steep grades etc. A race tune with meth injection would make more sense but then other factors come into play (brakes, suspension).
#16
Senior Member
Whoever has access to the base timing via IATs could simply tell us at what temp the ecm pulls timing, at what rate it pulls it and what the recovery rate is. Progressively spray accordingly via temp sensor and use a hobbs switch as the arming device so you only spray in boost, win
Last edited by jcain; 12-21-2011 at 01:30 PM.
#17
Senior Member
Whoever has access to the base timing via IATs could simply tell us at what temp the ecm pulls timing, at what rate it pulls it and what the recovery rate is. Progressively spray accordingly via temp sensor and use a hobbs switch as the arming device so you only spray in boost, win
#18
B-52 Chief
Thread Starter
Wow, I never thought there would be so much more to this as far measuring IAT and such. I just figured for $25-$30 and 2 hours of my time it would be a fun project and easy couple extra HP. Additionally, I could say that I have the only Ecoboost F150 with an intercooler spray kit that I know of...
I definitely appreciate all the interest in this though and maybe someone can perfect this down the road.
Until then I'm just going to go forward with my original idea and treat it as a project to give me something to do in my spare time and possibly gain a few extra HP on those hot summer days. I doubt the spray would be worth it now during winter temps as heat soak is less likely.
I definitely appreciate all the interest in this though and maybe someone can perfect this down the road.
Until then I'm just going to go forward with my original idea and treat it as a project to give me something to do in my spare time and possibly gain a few extra HP on those hot summer days. I doubt the spray would be worth it now during winter temps as heat soak is less likely.
#19
Senior Member
Whoever has access to the base timing via IATs could simply tell us at what temp the ecm pulls timing, at what rate it pulls it and what the recovery rate is. Progressively spray accordingly via temp sensor and use a hobbs switch as the arming device so you only spray in boost, win
Wow, I never thought there would be so much more to this as far measuring IAT and such. I just figured for $25-$30 and 2 hours of my time it would be a fun project and easy couple extra HP. Additionally, I could say that I have the only Ecoboost F150 with an intercooler spray kit that I know of...
I definitely appreciate all the interest in this though and maybe someone can perfect this down the road.
Until then I'm just going to go forward with my original idea and treat it as a project to give me something to do in my spare time and possibly gain a few extra HP on those hot summer days. I doubt the spray would be worth it now during winter temps as heat soak is less likely.
I definitely appreciate all the interest in this though and maybe someone can perfect this down the road.
Until then I'm just going to go forward with my original idea and treat it as a project to give me something to do in my spare time and possibly gain a few extra HP on those hot summer days. I doubt the spray would be worth it now during winter temps as heat soak is less likely.
#20
Senior Member
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FYI - in 90+ degree temps, 60% plus humidity, 7500# TRavel Trailer and full load of kids and gear, my IAT temps stayed within five degrees of ambient air temps, even pulling into the smoky mountains of east Tennessee.
I have logged IAT in various temps and conditions, and only time I've seen significants spikes is heat soak sitting at redlights. And the temps drop very quick once you get moving.
You have a great idea that jas worked on other boosted vehicles, but I'm afraid it's going to be a waste of time and money.
I have logged IAT in various temps and conditions, and only time I've seen significants spikes is heat soak sitting at redlights. And the temps drop very quick once you get moving.
You have a great idea that jas worked on other boosted vehicles, but I'm afraid it's going to be a waste of time and money.