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Old 08-02-2012, 12:40 PM
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Myth: A turbo charged engine takes more abuse to do the same job therefore it will not last as long

WRONG! Forced induction with reduced timing actually produces LESS pressure in the cylinder than a naturally aspirated motor with more timing.
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This myth kind of goes for all vehicles made by Ford and anyone else, but due to the Ecoboost nametag, its much more prevalent here. It has definitely died down now, but still there as recently as a few days ago

Myth: Ford way over rated the MPG on the EcoBoost and no one gets the mileage they claim and Ford will do nothing about it.

Truth: Ford, nor any other manufacturer for that matter, sets their ratings. On the stick it says EPA rated MPG. Imagine that! The EPA sets it, not Ford or anyone else. They put on there what the EPA tells them to. They also put an expected MPG RANGE on the sticker that most don't pay attention to. This is what they expect most vehicles equipped as yours is to get for economy. Can't blame Ford for any of it like most people here seem to think they need to do (this is of course as long as you fall in that range).
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Originally Posted by MXD
Myth: A turbo charged engine takes more abuse to do the same job therefore it will not last as long

WRONG! Forced induction with reduced timing actually produces LESS pressure in the cylinder than a naturally aspirated motor with more timing.
Really? It would seem to me, that even with the reduced compression ratio, having the turbos force feed an additional atmosphere (at 14.7 pounds of boost) would double the "effective" compression ratio......what am I missing here?
I love my EB, and I know that with turbos and superchargers, the force on the pistons comes on when the piston is already moving, but force feeding ANY engine.....it would just seem logical to me that it would raise the force on the top of the piston.
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I got CHASTISED by the local populous a year ago when I proclaimed that the computer WILL be reprogrammed and the result WILL be large gains in power. Everybody and his brother came on here to explain to me that the computers are encrypted and the turbos and/or fuel pump is already max'd out. I feel vindicated, but nobody seems to have admitted they were wrong.
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Originally Posted by sterlingone

Really? It would seem to me, that even with the reduced compression ratio, having the turbos force feed an additional atmosphere (at 14.7 pounds of boost) would double the "effective" compression ratio......what am I missing here?
I love my EB, and I know that with turbos and superchargers, the force on the pistons comes on when the piston is already moving, but force feeding ANY engine.....it would just seem logical to me that it would raise the force on the top of the piston.
DCR and scr are different. Also, dcr is decided by your cam profiling and the ecoboost has VCt so they can manipulate the **** out of cylinder pressure and the.likes. also, with a fi application, they knowingly moved down the top ring land

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I got CHASTISED by the local populous a year ago when I proclaimed that the computer WILL be reprogrammed and the result WILL be large gains in power. Everybody and his brother came on here to explain to me that the computers are encrypted and the turbos and/or fuel pump is already max'd out. I feel vindicated, but nobody seems to have admitted they were wrong.
I bought my truck in July of last year and joined the site right in the middle of all of that. There were so many individuals who said the EB was maxed out and you wouldn't be able to squeeze anything else out of it. I did my best to keep my mouth or fingers shut, but got SLAMMED by a number of people anytime I did speak up about the possibility of what the tuning aftermarket could do for these trucks.

Ah well, it is what it is and those naysayers aren't saying much anymore
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Originally Posted by TJFX2EB
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Myth: Ford way over rated the MPG on the EcoBoost and no one gets the mileage they claim and Ford will do nothing about it.

Truth: Ford, nor any other manufacturer for that matter, sets their ratings. On the stick it says EPA rated MPG. ...
This needs to be a sticky, a banner, or even the name of the site. I've posted this at least a half a dozen times to attempt to enlighten the ignorant. What aggravates me is that the EPA methods are on their website for the whole world to google and see, but people make up stuff that's not true and post it as fact.

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Myth: The Ecoboost's power is maxed out in it's stock form. There is not much more you can get out of it with a tune or other mods.

SCT 93 Tune gains: +50rwhp and +108rwtq
LMS 93 Tune gains: +69rwhp and +88rwtq
SC 91 Tune gains: +53rwhp and +68rwtq
I could go on, but the fact has already been proven...




Here you go Mike! I did this one for ya. Hopefully those who spread this myth and called you wrong will come back to apologize, but I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for it.

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Old 08-05-2012, 03:34 AM
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The posted mpg figures are low and should be higher. 23mpg can Be achieved quite easily. I am thinking I can get 30 mpg. It doesnt take much to get 25 on the highway.
There are all kinds of sweet spots on these trucks/engines.
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Myth - "I'm not sure I trust those turbos to last very long, blah, blah, blah.... Gas engines will burn them up."

Truth - Turbos have been used for many decades. Since WWI, turbos have been used on high performance gasoline aircraft engines to maximize power output at altitude with tremendous success. With modern manufacturing and design turbos will last for many tens of thousands of miles. Your electric window motor is more likely to die before your turbos.


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