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Old 05-14-2012, 06:37 PM
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All I had was the shudder issue until the dealership re-flashed my ECM on two separate visits, one turbo replacement on a 3rd visit and and some kind of valve and some other parts replacements on the 4th visit. I was offered a new 5.0 truck though I want the ecoboost to do what it as designed to do and I don't want a 5.0. I JUST WANT THE MF'ing THING TO DO WHAT FORD DESIGNED IT TO DO.

After 4 times to the dealership, I hate having more problems than when I took it in the first time. About 10% of us having a variety of problems and it seems I have them ALL!!!!
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The lawyers are not a free market, it is more like a cartel. The lawyers are friends, associates, etc. That includes the judges. Do you think a judge, who works for a law firm, will restrict compensation to anther law firm. Have you ever seen a lawyer sue another lawyer. Tort reform in limiting the lawyer fees and the loser pays is what is needed. At way to get honest and independent judges is a must as well. Look at the asbestos lawsuits. How much did the injuried folks get vs the lawyers. One lawyer got enough money to buy a baseball team, a losing team but still a team. Look at the Prius lawsuit and what is offered to the owners.
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This is an issue I've been dealing with for over 1 year and a few months, so the people questioning my authenticity, I'm guessing you may be moles for Ford posting.

I love the ecoboost engine when it runs right, but that's the problem, it does not run right. Under the current lemon law in my state, ford basically gives you a pro rata share....you pay for a portion you used, just like a lease. If I wanted a lease, I would have thrown my money away on a lease. My last truck I had for 10+ years and it looked and ran as good as new. Of course it was a Dodge. My frustration is that I did not get what I paid for. This first happened to me roughly 3 months after it was new. It has been happening since. I would love a new ecoboost that ran properly; it's a beast when it does.

I have a wife and a baby, and when you go to pass a vehicle and it cuts out on you, it is scary when you're on the interstate.
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Originally Posted by jchristian11
Funny, in my example if the law firm bills at $500 per hour that equates to 18,000 hours on the case, equivalent to almost 30 lawyers working full time on the case for 2 years straight. Still think it's a "free market?"
You wouldn't want a $2-300/hr lawyer going up against a large corporation. $500 sounds about right for someone with the skill set necessary for success. Secondly, the lawyer doesn't take home the billable rate - more like 1/3 of it. Most of it goes to the firm, which is split up many ways. There are a ton of overheads plus outside services to pay for. All this and there is zero gaurantee they will win, so many cases get many hours invested which turns into a total loss.

It's not like one guy gets $9M for a few hours in court.

When one group decides another makes too much money and wants the government to step in, it's the beginnings of Socialism.
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I think if we all pursued the fact that Ford Motor Company, while admirable, improved and solid overall, has not figured out how to make a consistent, good automatic transmission in its' companies history...we would have some success.
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Originally Posted by RMS94
...Have you ever seen a lawyer sue another lawyer. ...
Absolutely.

Originally Posted by RMS94
...Tort reform in limiting the lawyer fees and the loser pays is what is needed. ...
Tort reform, as the term is most commonly used, describes laws which limit the rights of the person filing suit against a corporation. For instance, if a car company builds a faulty car, which causes a wreck, and you can prove they knew it was faulty and decided not to fix it, tort reform would limit your ability to sue the car maker or limit the damages paid out. Another type of tort reform is allowing "arbitration clauses", which force you to use a paid "arbitrator" to decide your case instead of the courts. The arbitrator rules in favor of the corporation 95% of the time. In all likelihood, you have already agreed to this in some form or fashion.

Tort reform is sold to the general public as a way to limit "frivolous lawsuits", but in actuality it protects companies from liability and allows them to perform some devious and sometimes dangerous practices.
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Absolutely.



Tort reform, as the term is most commonly used, describes laws which limit the rights of the person filing suit against a corporation. For instance, if a car company builds a faulty car, which causes a wreck, and you can prove they knew it was faulty and decided not to fix it, tort reform would limit your ability to sue the car maker or limit the damages paid out. Another type of tort reform is allowing "arbitration clauses", which force you to use a paid "arbitrator" to decide your case instead of the courts. The arbitrator rules in favor of the corporation 95% of the time. In all likelihood, you have already agreed to this in some form or fashion.

Tort reform is sold to the general public as a way to limit "frivolous lawsuits", but in actuality it protects companies from liability and allows them to perform some devious and sometimes dangerous practices.
"The arbitrator rules in favor of the corporation 95% of the time."

I'd love to see your evidence backing up this statement...which you will now say is "anecdotal," but really you just made it up.
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Originally Posted by jchristian11
...I'd love to see your evidence backing up this statement...which you will now say is "anecdotal," but really you just made it up.
I do not make up numbers. It came from a credible source. Edit: You DO realize that the arbitration companies have contracts with the big corporations, not the individuals. If their pay comes from the corporation, who do you think they will side with most of the time? That was the beauty of the courts and jury.

But from your response, I surmise you are ok with giving up your right to file suit against your employer, credit card company, or cell phone provider, no matter what they do to you. You probably already have.

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Originally Posted by insaneperson
I think if we all pursued the fact that Ford Motor Company, while admirable, improved and solid overall, has not figured out how to make a consistent, good automatic transmission in its' companies history...we would have some success.

Your kidding I hope.....Ford has made some of the best automatic trannys ever built....my 2012 F150 is the 14th Ford Motor Company product that I've owned......and never not even once had to replace or repair the transmission...so that theory of bad trannys doesn't fly very far with me.......maybe check with the gm boys and you'll find alot of folks to talk to.
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Knocking on wood i have 12k on my 2011 FX4 ecoboost fully loaded with everything but NAV and i've never had a problem with anything at all. don't know if i got lucky or what my truck is stock and i run a mix of 87 and 93 fuel ethanol free and ethanol i romp on it and drive it easy and it run's. just saying is all.

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