Border Patrol Raptor and my FX4
#21
ETTYOCEO ®
Originally Posted by mykrrrr
I live/work in the Detroit area and drove by a transporter full of BP Raptors waiting to ship. I'd rather have my tax money go to them than a war we'll never win or to politician paychecks who don't do crap in Washington DC.
#22
Senior Member
#23
Senior Member
Give me a break!!!!
Probably one of the smartest investments HLS has done recently; and those 'tax dollars' all go to a strong American company!!!
I want these guys, who IMO are not appreciated enough, and have one of the toughest LE jobs in America, to have the right tools to complete their job safely and effectively; why not in a strong, state of the art Raptor!!??
Have a nice day!
#24
ETTYOCEO ®
Originally Posted by NorCal-09
Give me a break!!!!
Probably one of the smartest investments HLS has done recently; and those 'tax dollars' all go to a strong American company!!!
I want these guys, who IMO are not appreciated enough, and have one of the toughest LE jobs in America, to have the right tools to complete their job safely and effectively; why not in a strong, state of the art Raptor!!??
Have a nice day!
A shiot load of Raptors are a lot cheaper then 9/11 was. Not to mention the worthless gangheads that decide to come across undocumented everyday.
This isn't really the forum to talk immigration though. No pun intended.
Last edited by cdvaight; 12-12-2011 at 08:02 PM.
#25
Senior Member
Give me a break!!!!
Probably one of the smartest investments HLS has done recently; and those 'tax dollars' all go to a strong American company!!!
I want these guys, who IMO are not appreciated enough, and have one of the toughest LE jobs in America, to have the right tools to complete their job safely and effectively; why not in a strong, state of the art Raptor!!??
Have a nice day!
Probably one of the smartest investments HLS has done recently; and those 'tax dollars' all go to a strong American company!!!
I want these guys, who IMO are not appreciated enough, and have one of the toughest LE jobs in America, to have the right tools to complete their job safely and effectively; why not in a strong, state of the art Raptor!!??
Have a nice day!
The tax dollars spent to buy those Raptors PALES in comparison to the tax dollars that goes to giving millions of illegal immigrants as well as other lazy slobs a free ride in our country....Now THAT my friends is a waste of tax money.
#26
Originally Posted by Buck
I agree. My last two jobs have been with government agencies. The "our tax dollars at work" comments get old and are largely unfounded and often made by people who really have no idea why their tax dollars are spent the way they are.
The tax dollars spent to buy those Raptors PALES in comparison to the tax dollars that goes to giving millions of illegal immigrants as well as other lazy slobs a free ride in our country....Now THAT my friends is a waste of tax money.
#27
ETTYOCEO ®
Originally Posted by Buck
I agree. My last two jobs have been with government agencies. The "our tax dollars at work" comments get old and are largely unfounded and often made by people who really have no idea why their tax dollars are spent the way they are.
The tax dollars spent to buy those Raptors PALES in comparison to the tax dollars that goes to giving millions of illegal immigrants as well as other lazy slobs a free ride in our country....Now THAT my friends is a waste of tax money.
#29
Just a little background on the philosophy of purchasing these Raptors as opposed to conventional 4x4 trucks; although the sentiment that the Border Patrol deserves the best tools regardless of price is appreciated, the truth is it is strictly a financial decision.
USBP has been using conventional 4x4's from the Big 3 forever. They buy them then immediately spend thousands of dollars in retrofitting to make it fit the duties required: lift kits, larger tires, bumper modifications, etc. These upgrades cost tons of money, and decreased the reliability of the vehicles. Ford sent out some new Raptors for testing last year, the Supercab 5.4L version. The vehicle was ready for field deployment right off the transport truck, only additions were emergency lights and radio install, and a vinyl stripe package. This truck tested very well and was cheaper than a modified conventional 4x4. The only complaint was no room to transport arrested subjects. Ford advised that there was a Supercrew version in production, so USBP ordered up a bunch. You may notice a cage behind the front seats. A bed mounted cage was not feasible since it's a half ton truck, those cages weigh a ton before any people are put in them, way over the limit.
So that's the story, the government actually doing something to save taxpayers some money. (They also have Dodge Powerwagons, too. No bias here)
USBP has been using conventional 4x4's from the Big 3 forever. They buy them then immediately spend thousands of dollars in retrofitting to make it fit the duties required: lift kits, larger tires, bumper modifications, etc. These upgrades cost tons of money, and decreased the reliability of the vehicles. Ford sent out some new Raptors for testing last year, the Supercab 5.4L version. The vehicle was ready for field deployment right off the transport truck, only additions were emergency lights and radio install, and a vinyl stripe package. This truck tested very well and was cheaper than a modified conventional 4x4. The only complaint was no room to transport arrested subjects. Ford advised that there was a Supercrew version in production, so USBP ordered up a bunch. You may notice a cage behind the front seats. A bed mounted cage was not feasible since it's a half ton truck, those cages weigh a ton before any people are put in them, way over the limit.
So that's the story, the government actually doing something to save taxpayers some money. (They also have Dodge Powerwagons, too. No bias here)
#30
Senior Member
If I was a liberal Marxist-progressive college professor I'd give you an F too. A statement like yours and mine goes against all socialist principles.