chon

I haven't seen any feedback from the UPR 5.0 catch can (new revision). I just emptied 2oz of crap from mine after 3k miles on the truck. Very impressed!

shortride

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For those that haven't been around as long as I have, there wasn't such a thing as emission control in the early days. The oil, vapors and crankcase residue was dumped into the atmosphere through a hose that hung from the bottom of the engines. I'm still not convinced that the catch-can is needed.

All of the claims are only that and I have yet to see or read anything about any real world stats about the benefits of a catch-can. If the catch-can would improve fuel economy it seems the manufactures would be all over it since MPG increase would improve Ford Motor Company's CAFE ratings.

funmoneypit150

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I have also been around for a long time and remember the days of the open breathers that would spit the oil out under the vehicle. Now that oil is recycled back into the engine. With what I have seen that was collected in the cans, that is enough information for me. I don't want the oil going back through the intake. If you do, no problem.


There has never been any claims of improved fuel economy from what I have read but this will help your intake from getting coated with oil and residue which will DECREASE your fuel economy. So it is about maintaining your economy, not improving it.


Not sure why you keep coming into this thread to discredit the product. If you don't think it is worthwhile, don't use it. I have just ordered mine.

shortride

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"keep coming into this thread to discredit the product?" I think I only made one previous post on this thread and that was only an opinion. I don't know enough on the subject to discredit it, but if I did I would. I've never believed in promoting a product that has no data or statistics to confirm its legitimate claims.

funmoneypit150

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Well I only have read the first eight pages and then the last and saw two posts of yours that say the same thing so my opologies. If you don't see any benefit, so be it. Many of us do as in all the posts with pics of the oil it traps.


Like I said, if you are OK with the oil going back through your intake, no problem.

brihvac

From what I understand the oil/vapor going back into the intake will slowly gum up in the passages of the intake. After well over 100K miles it will start effecting economy and proper operation. My friends '03 is having this issue now. His truck has over 200K miles on it and will not pass emissions for inspection. Its coding out EGR and he replaced the valve, etc. Issue is that the passages in the intake are gummed up and needs to be cleaned or replaced to pass. Its not flowing enough air and its throwing an EGR code. I'm on the fence with buying one because I do not plan on having my truck over 100K miles and I remember seeing somewhere on here where one froze in the winter and blew apart.

JLTD

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Joe@UPR

I can tell you Catch Can systems are indeed beneficial to the point that they can extend the life of spark plugs and reduce tune up frequency. Now the second benefit is keeping the intake tract and combustion chambers infinitely cleaner. I am not here to lay claims about increasing huge mileage or other things that may or may not be true. That vendors claim sounding more like the slick snake oil salesman / the cure all gotta have it or your engine will blow remedy. We all know these claims can be damaging and very misleading to new comers and even force them into buying a can out of fear with titles like Oil Ingestion Problems that have shaken the values and foundation of what I believe to be fear tactic sales and not helping the forums or enthusiasts.

I am a long time performance NUT, so when I say this you can be sure this is not sales driven and that I am more concerned with sharing the truth with my fellow enthusiasts so they can make an educated decision and nothing more. As we have all lived without catch cans for years. But evolution from things like carburetion to fuel injection for the improved performance. Or filters getting finer and finer to strain fuel and contaminants from entering. So why would a catch can system that is designed to HELP the cause and not completely eliminate it like some manufacturers claim or would like to think, which is yet to be seen.

The most important thing is to take into consideration that a catch can will help MAINTAIN your octane rating and MAINTAIN and maybe even improve your MPG by the smallest amount from keeping the intake charge cleaner than the manufacturer even designed or considered. Lastly the OEM is finally moving in the same direction as the industry and the masses, we are now seeing and hearing more and more about Chevrolet and Ford making oil catch cans and even clean side oil separators that replace the oil caps.

The problem I see for the manufacturer is that they do not want to create a vehicle that requires another thing on their vehicle that requires frequent maintenance like many catch cans do in a fear that it will hurt sales as the common consumer wants a maintenance free vehicle. With that being said I too agree with the manufacturer and think they are being smart by leaving it in the aftermarket. For them to create a system that could be maintenance free it would have to be ?? LOL, called a PCV system and just filter better. Ultimately it would still lack being self-sufficient unless it could utilize whatever it collected and removed.

We are working on newer technology that will be able to coalesce and condense properly while generating enough heat to force the fuel and moisture to be burnt or evaporate and once it reach it level it can drain the recycled oil back into the system. This is still a ways away but we have gotten some very smart chemical engineers working with us on this to potentially make it a reality.

The perfect separator !

But for now a catch can will HELP you MAINTAIN your vehicle to improved state of tune and nothing more. You can be sure that you can live without running a catch can, but you won't reap the benefits of the overall state of tune and crispness a catch can will give your vehicle each and every day. This is a choice just like eating healthy or eating fast foods and again it's a choice. The more educated choices and beneficial things we do in every aspect of our life reward us and that is a fact. So just thing about the longevity and not all the nonsense and crazy claims and just the simple facts and maintenance aspect first and foremost.

Sorry for the long winded reply, I just want to be clear about what this product stands for and it's benefits. Other than that everyone is entitled to their opinion and decisions and I respect that.

Joe

Ford850

Great post Joe.

Edgar214

It's my understanding that I have the UPR 5.0 catch can (new revision), and after many conversations with Bryan and emails with Joe, I personally don't know why this isn't the first modification added to any truck!
I know it was mine. As per Joe's instructions I empty my catch can every 500 miles, getting the oil and other solids that would go directly into my intake.
After show it to three friends they have also added it to their trucks.
As it has been said before it's just a "no brainer".
Thanks Mike