5.0L or eco boost and why???
02-11-2017, 11:23 AM
#151
6.2 power!!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hs2uITANaCk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hs2uITANaCk
02-13-2017, 01:52 PM
#153
Senior Member
02-15-2017, 05:12 PM
#156
Member
Thanks to those who have shared actual experiences and refrained from biased unreasoned bashing of one motor over the other. The one guy should have kept his 09 F150 Eco as that will be a one of a kind collector one day.
When I got my 5.4 in late 2010 the 2011 Eco's were already on the lots and the salesmen were pushing them hard and chanting power of a V-8 and fuel mileage of a V-6. Turns out you can't believe what salesmen tell you. At the time, the additional advertised 30 ft/lbs of torque (60 if you compared actual ratings of the 5.4 on gas) did not make it worth the risk of the new unproven Eco. Very good friend of mine got a 2011 Eco and we both tow a lot and camp together and he had a lot of problems with his until he finally traded it for a 2014 Eco and has not had a problem since 2014. His experience with his 2011 made me thank my lucky stars that I went for the 2010 5.4 as that was the right choice at that time. The early Eco's had far more problems than the new 5.0 and until Ford publishes numbers the Eco will continue to carry the perception of being less reliable whether it is accurate or not.
I recently had the opportunity to drive a 2017 5.0 for 3 weeks while my truck was in the body shop (texting idiot in a Tundra rear-ended me while I was stopped at red light). The 2017 was in Sport mode the whole time which did not help mpg, but wow, left the radio off and listened to the rumble. Haven't street raced anybody with my 5.4 but if I decide to start, I'll avoid both the new 5.0's and the Eco's. Unfortunately I did not get the opportunity to tow with the 2017.
Soon, I would like to buy a new F150 with 500+ ft lbs of torque coupled with the Heavy Duty Payload Package for towing my camper in summer and commuting to work in the winter because I can't get snow tires for my motorbike. I would like, but don't absolutely need 925 ft/lbs of torque of the new Super Duties if somebody else would make the payments for me. This would really fill a niche for us weekend warriors that tow relatively heavy campers on weekends and commute to work to pay for them during the week and do not need the max capabilities of the HD trucks.
With the new Eco's having 470 ft/lbs (getting awful close to the magic 500) which is 30+% more torque than my 2010 and 20% more than the current 5.0, today I would have take off my V-8 hat and slide behind the wheel of an Eco, but with a large enough bump in power for the 5.0 (rumored for 2018), the decision may become more difficult. I think the new 10 spd trans will help the 5.0 more than it helped the Eco but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the real world.
Love the V-8 rumble but with the right speakers, sub and amps maybe I could still smile while towing with a turbo V-6.
When I got my 5.4 in late 2010 the 2011 Eco's were already on the lots and the salesmen were pushing them hard and chanting power of a V-8 and fuel mileage of a V-6. Turns out you can't believe what salesmen tell you. At the time, the additional advertised 30 ft/lbs of torque (60 if you compared actual ratings of the 5.4 on gas) did not make it worth the risk of the new unproven Eco. Very good friend of mine got a 2011 Eco and we both tow a lot and camp together and he had a lot of problems with his until he finally traded it for a 2014 Eco and has not had a problem since 2014. His experience with his 2011 made me thank my lucky stars that I went for the 2010 5.4 as that was the right choice at that time. The early Eco's had far more problems than the new 5.0 and until Ford publishes numbers the Eco will continue to carry the perception of being less reliable whether it is accurate or not.
I recently had the opportunity to drive a 2017 5.0 for 3 weeks while my truck was in the body shop (texting idiot in a Tundra rear-ended me while I was stopped at red light). The 2017 was in Sport mode the whole time which did not help mpg, but wow, left the radio off and listened to the rumble. Haven't street raced anybody with my 5.4 but if I decide to start, I'll avoid both the new 5.0's and the Eco's. Unfortunately I did not get the opportunity to tow with the 2017.
Soon, I would like to buy a new F150 with 500+ ft lbs of torque coupled with the Heavy Duty Payload Package for towing my camper in summer and commuting to work in the winter because I can't get snow tires for my motorbike. I would like, but don't absolutely need 925 ft/lbs of torque of the new Super Duties if somebody else would make the payments for me. This would really fill a niche for us weekend warriors that tow relatively heavy campers on weekends and commute to work to pay for them during the week and do not need the max capabilities of the HD trucks.
With the new Eco's having 470 ft/lbs (getting awful close to the magic 500) which is 30+% more torque than my 2010 and 20% more than the current 5.0, today I would have take off my V-8 hat and slide behind the wheel of an Eco, but with a large enough bump in power for the 5.0 (rumored for 2018), the decision may become more difficult. I think the new 10 spd trans will help the 5.0 more than it helped the Eco but it will be interesting to see how things play out in the real world.
Love the V-8 rumble but with the right speakers, sub and amps maybe I could still smile while towing with a turbo V-6.
02-16-2017, 08:52 AM
#157
Senior Member
If you are looking for a bit more power, a custom tune on the eco will blow you away. VERY cheap power, even on the conservative tunes.
02-16-2017, 03:02 PM
#158
.... especially from SSI