5.0 UPR vs RX Catch Can Effectiveness Test
07-18-2014, 09:47 PM
#331
Senior Member
Interesting reading on all this...
Google the names involved and you will see that it's a pattern starting with the GM folks. Similar stories, similar results, and you know why some of us are so critical.
I can only hope that there are not many financial implications of the dealings.
Google the names involved and you will see that it's a pattern starting with the GM folks. Similar stories, similar results, and you know why some of us are so critical.
I can only hope that there are not many financial implications of the dealings.
07-18-2014, 10:10 PM
#332
Senior Member
That was Tracy's guarantee, he backs it as the manufacturer.
It's not a money thing, in fact I'm cutting my biggest selling item from my store, however as of right now Tracy is behind orders from April on clean sides.
I stopped taking orders via my storefront to allow him to catch up, he's already 30+ clean sides behind and 10+ monsters.
I talked to him yesterday on the phone and reiterated that we should wait to sell any more catch cans.
His answer is to use my account on this forum that I pay for to direct sales to his own site or via PM to him. He did this on the two main F150 forums, my response is we're done doing business together.
He's also working on doing throttle bodies, to me I wouldn't do anything more to increase my work load until I can catch up with all my back load is handled.
Ideally after 2-3 weeks back in May Tracy should have informed me and told me to hold orders until he was able to catch up, that wasn't the case. When I had some refunds, they didn't have the funds to repay me for oustanding refunds, I had to wait almost a month, meanwhile they were charging my credit card the entire time for new orders.
I wish this weren't the case but unfortunately this seems to be par for the course for Tracy and his business doings.
We're working on a comparable solution to Tracy's catch can and clean side, I should have more info next week.
I've also talked to Joe and his new catch can should be on par with Tracy's for functionality.
It's not a money thing, in fact I'm cutting my biggest selling item from my store, however as of right now Tracy is behind orders from April on clean sides.
I stopped taking orders via my storefront to allow him to catch up, he's already 30+ clean sides behind and 10+ monsters.
I talked to him yesterday on the phone and reiterated that we should wait to sell any more catch cans.
His answer is to use my account on this forum that I pay for to direct sales to his own site or via PM to him. He did this on the two main F150 forums, my response is we're done doing business together.
He's also working on doing throttle bodies, to me I wouldn't do anything more to increase my work load until I can catch up with all my back load is handled.
Ideally after 2-3 weeks back in May Tracy should have informed me and told me to hold orders until he was able to catch up, that wasn't the case. When I had some refunds, they didn't have the funds to repay me for oustanding refunds, I had to wait almost a month, meanwhile they were charging my credit card the entire time for new orders.
I wish this weren't the case but unfortunately this seems to be par for the course for Tracy and his business doings.
We're working on a comparable solution to Tracy's catch can and clean side, I should have more info next week.
I've also talked to Joe and his new catch can should be on par with Tracy's for functionality.
Nice try, but I remember the warranty thing a little differently.
Post by Tuner Boost 4-10-2014:
"LOL! ANd Mike at EcoboostPowerParts will GUARANTEE it cures the water accumulation issues as well as the rest of the PCV flaw related problems the EB has. Intake valve coking, accumulation of contaminates in the crankcase and engine oil, and the gunk buildup in the CAC."
Very next post in thread by EcoPowerParts posted 4-10-2014:
"Link is here to purchase, includes shipping at $299!
http://shop.ecoboostpowerparts.com/R...RXCatchCan.htm"
Post by Tuner Boost 4-20-2014:
"Ecoboostpowerparts also offers a money back guarantee that if the system does not do as claimed, it can be returned.....that started app a month ago and to date not a single one that installed it has taken them up on it. The proof is from the nearly 300 EB truck owners that have these running now and all to date claim it has cured the issues."
I don't recall ever seeing EcoPowerParts making a disclaimer about the above posts regarding this warranty, only a post to sell the catch can.
EcoPowerParts also didn't have any problem charging my credit card immediately on a new order. I ordered the catch can and clean side separator on 6-15-2014. My credit card was charged by EcoPowerParts on 6-15-2014. The catch can shipped 7-14-2014 (received 7-16-2014). The clean side separator is still on back order. While most businesses don't charge your card until the item ships, I was ok with this until you slam someone else for doing the same thing. So, you weren't really out anything on this deal.
If you don't want to stand behind the products you sell, that's fine. Just don't expect anymore business from me.
07-18-2014, 10:27 PM
#333
Our new system is above the rest without question.....
The latest offering will have dual check valve and we are finishing up the all billet clean side separators with real split baffled internals and proper drain routing.
I am also working on a custom silicone hose connector for the ecoboost to be able to tap in the pipe for vacuum for WOT making sure the tubes and everything stays perfect and no drilling.
This has been a great motivator to build a true system to match the quality and build of the trucks without quality issues and all 5/8 lines with nickel fittings and the new nickel drain *****.
I have been just working on so many products that this has been coming together nicely over time and I wanted to wait before we release anything that we are working on patenting to have proper protection.
All the new offerings will be just get better and better as we have special coalescing filters being made for the new cans to be able to adjust the amount of filtration you are looking for.
There is a lot of surprises and new options coming for catch cans and the ability to be 100% modular and to be able to adjust how much performance, scavenging and fluid capacity for each individual's needs.
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I am also working on a custom silicone hose connector for the ecoboost to be able to tap in the pipe for vacuum for WOT making sure the tubes and everything stays perfect and no drilling.
This has been a great motivator to build a true system to match the quality and build of the trucks without quality issues and all 5/8 lines with nickel fittings and the new nickel drain *****.
I have been just working on so many products that this has been coming together nicely over time and I wanted to wait before we release anything that we are working on patenting to have proper protection.
All the new offerings will be just get better and better as we have special coalescing filters being made for the new cans to be able to adjust the amount of filtration you are looking for.
There is a lot of surprises and new options coming for catch cans and the ability to be 100% modular and to be able to adjust how much performance, scavenging and fluid capacity for each individual's needs.
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That's too bad. If that's the case, you may want to consider changing your name. The UPR's all pretty and such and might be fine for the 5.0's, but it doesn't address the boost issues with the Eco's like the Rx dual valve does. Even Joe has acknowledged that. I'll take function over form anyday. Does your guarantee that the Rx will solve any condensation issues with the Eco's still hold for the ones bought through you (I know I ordered mine through you)? I received my Rx dual valve Wednesday. The new lines with the built in check valves are really nice. And, according to Tracy, their parts supplier for the clean side separators has been the reason for the delays on those. So, they finally decided to just manufacture the parts themselves and should be shipping any day. While there are multiple options for the clean side separator, the Rx is the only one (besides maybe the Elite Engineering, but that's another story) that really addresses the needs of the Eco.
07-18-2014, 11:00 PM
#334
I'll be waiting to see what you release then. I want to do a catch can system and liked the performance of the RX, but wasn't crazy about drilling holes in things. Think this will be ready in the next 90 days or so?
07-18-2014, 11:44 PM
#335
Seems like about what you see when you go for more 22 stingers, none available anywhere. If you want one RX system order it is my credo. Think the last video I saw the hoses go bigger diameter and fit the fittings without adapters on them. Obviously with all the forums wanting them they are in back order and RX will need to enlarge its manufacturing.
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Last edited by papa tiger; 07-18-2014 at 11:51 PM.
07-19-2014, 12:12 AM
#336
Senior Member
Anxious to see this too, although I'm not sure how you tap into the pipe without drilling it.
07-19-2014, 12:17 AM
#337
07-19-2014, 12:49 AM
#338
Drilling needs to be done for the turbo's to pull enough to get the clean side working right and the fresh air rerouted to the air cleaner box. The video shows how easy it is. U do wreck the warranty on the air tube, thas all. He shows you how to catch the small amount of plastic from drilling.
Last edited by papa tiger; 07-19-2014 at 12:51 AM.
07-19-2014, 01:22 AM
#339
I understand why you have to drill. But I still would like to see if someone found a no drill option. Also as good as those rx cans seem to be working it would suck if the company just flakes out randomly after they receive a lot of orders. Hopefully that is not the case here.