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Old 05-19-2014, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuner Boost
... attacks from ITguy and engmike...
Thanks, but there are at least a dozen other technical folks out there to give credit to.

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Why they have such a vested interest in silencing issues and fixes is beyond me.
Seeing as how we aren't selling catch cans, we believe that the typical forum reader would appreciate input from unbiased technical sources, rather than those selling or manufacturing the cans.

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vehicle owners do not have is time to sit back and find out later they installed a product to address an issue and find it really did not...
...or worse, find that there was really no issue to begin with.
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Thanks, but there are at least a dozen other technical folks out there to give credit to.
Meeeeee, I'll take some credit.
I removed my intercooler for cleaning after 3 years and 21k miles and it was bone dry. I was planning on drilling the hole but I didn't bother.
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XX2. Right above the exhaust manifolds not so good. Go for cool.
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Originally Posted by Tuner Boost

This helps all, but the attacks from ITguy and engmikes group will continue. Why they have such a vested interest in silencing issues and fixes is beyond me.
As soon as you proclaimed that the catch can was a cure all product and will eliminate the condensation in the intercooler issue. Well...Never mind the fact the PVC system and the CAC system are totally separate. Well...never mind there is no PVC problem as portrayed. Your theory is kinda hard to take seriously.

In Business you always under promise and over deliver.
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Thanks, but there are at least a dozen other technical folks out there to give credit to.



Seeing as how we aren't selling catch cans, we believe that the typical forum reader would appreciate input from unbiased technical sources, rather than those selling or manufacturing the cans.



...or worse, find that there was really no issue to begin with.
Look at the science behind what he's saying, salesman agenda or not. You have a bias too because of your awareness that he is trying to sell something, so now you discredit everything he says, even when he's talking on purely scientific terms.

A significant percentage of 5.0 Coyotes, even in N/A form, produce a large amount of blow-by which contains sulfuric acids, abrasive carbon particles, unburnt fuel, water, and more, which condenses inside the engine and mixes with the oil and it starts causing detonation and the corrosion of internal parts. Just because you 'think' it's not doing anything doesnt mean its not making a major difference to the health and cleanliness of the motor after 20 years. Just because they have a selling agenda doesn't mean what they're talking about is some kind of fairy tale. Comon man.

What I and alot of other 5.0 owners collect in our cans is not something to be taken lightly because of the amount we are able to collect in just 1000 miles. There are lots of youtube videos on this. It is VERY significant over the long haul. Just because one guy barely collects anything doesnt mean all guys have that experience. If you still don't want to acknowledge it, get that stuff tested at an oil analysis lab and weep.

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I agree with jgiddy...I think it's been more information sharing than a sales pitch. I think the information TB was able to provide has been extremely insightful. Trying to "pitch" his product...nah. The RX product is just one of the best (if not the best) that many are doing their best to try and emulate/duplicate etc. I believe it's this way due to the expertise that TB and some others bring to the table. I do think that there is a bit of vindication going on with some of the "haters" from TB...but IMHO rightfully so, his product is doing exactly what it's claiming to do. Do you bash because the guy is making money on a product that works? That its better than some? That he's informative - allowing some that don't understand? Anyway, I move that we stay on the OP's topic of testing! move fit and function discussion to https://www.f150forum.com/f70/5-0l-o...12117/index67/ and test on! Also, I'd think that anyone who is doing any testing should share method and results here as well.

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Old 05-20-2014, 09:46 AM
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...you know, I just want to add that I think the people who will benefit most will be the EB runners. They have been pulling some nasty ****. I do think that the statement awhile back that the RX is a cure for the EB problems (that are NOT present in all EB btw) was aggressive - but...we'll see. FORD has taken an interest, by testing 23 units to which they have NO answer. That's pretty significant in my book.

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Originally Posted by snobdds
As soon as you proclaimed that the catch can was a cure all product and will eliminate the condensation in the intercooler issue. Well...Never mind the fact the PVC system and the CAC system are totally separate. Well...never mind there is no PVC problem as portrayed. Your theory is kinda hard to take seriously.

In Business you always under promise and over deliver.
Actually they are NOT totally separate! Pull your engine cover off and follow the route of the PVC system. Specifically the left side that flows unrestricted into the left turbo intake tube and ultimately settles into the CAC, the lowest point in the system!
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Originally Posted by NASSTY
Meeeeee, I'll take some credit.
I removed my intercooler for cleaning after 3 years and 21k miles and it was bone dry. I was planning on drilling the hole but I didn't bother.
And for those of us with a pool of gunk in our intercooler?
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Originally Posted by NASSTY
Meeeeee, I'll take some credit.
I removed my intercooler for cleaning after 3 years and 21k miles and it was bone dry. I was planning on drilling the hole but I didn't bother.
21k is not a lot of miles. I was into one about a month ago with around 30k and was actually quite surprised at the amount of oil in the air system!
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