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Old 03-11-2014, 11:49 PM
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It seems a little odd that the TSB requires the tech to go through all the freeze-frame data etc. and NOT update the truck to the latest calibration if certain parameters aren't shown...

The heart of the TSB is pretty simple...
- Remove the lower sticker shield, if it's there (2 minutes?)
- Remove the upper deflector, if it's there (5 minutes?)
- Load latest PCM calibration (I don't know how long the actual load takes, but it can't take much more time than hooking up the IDS system and pulling the diagnostic data, and it's mostly just time waiting for the PCM to update, tech can be doing something else).

Seems like a tech could rip through these upgrades so quickly, they should just do them on every ecoBoost, warranty or not, that comes in for say a dealer oil change or ANY other service. The additional cost to Ford warranty would be more than offset from the positive sales impact with the reduction in complaints and more people raving about the ecoBoost engine.

I have an early 2011 ecoBoost (FX4 SuperCrew) and never had any of the intercooler band-aids done to my truck. I never had stumble issues, and definitely didn't want intercooler mods to reduce charge cooling... But my truck was just reprogrammed to the latest PCM for other reasons (TSB-14-0044, My truck lives outside and is parked in sub-zero temperatures frequently during the winter, wanted the revised block heater) and I can give a preliminary thumbs-up to the latest calibration. Truck is running smoother and stronger than ever, just rolling up to 36,000 miles.

Despite the issues and complaints on the web, I absolutely love this engine in my truck. In the Colorado mountains (with 3.73 gearing), it absolutely rips on steep climbs an mountain passes. I didn't buy it for the 'eco' part, I bought it for the 'Boost!', and that part it does really well. This engine makes the truck. And I plan on ordering a 2015 in about another nine months, absolutely with an ecoBoost. Hopefully they will give the 3.73 gearing availability in the configuration I want as well.

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Old 03-12-2014, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
I can give a preliminary thumbs-up to the latest calibration. Truck is running smoother and stronger than ever, just rolling up to 36,000 miles.
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I didn't buy it for the 'eco' part, I bought it for the 'Boost!', and that part it does really well. This engine makes the truck.
Great to hear.

I also agree on the second part. I got the 3.5L dual turbo v6 because of the increased torque ratings and crossed my fingers on the fuel economy part.

I get about the same fuel economy as the 5.0L and a lot more low end torque for getting a trailer up to speed or up hills.
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Originally Posted by makuloco2000
i am not sure if it applie to canadian vehicles but here is the tsb

ford: 2013-2014 f-150

this article supersedes tsb 12-11-15 to update the vehicle model years, build date, service procedure and parts list.
issue:

some 2013-2014 f-150 vehicles equipped with a 3.5l gasoline turbocharged direct injection (gtdi) ecoboost® engine, and built on or before 12/16/2013 may exhibit an intermittent stumble and/or misfire on hard acceleration after extended operation at highway speeds during high humidity or damp conditions. This may result in either a steady or flashing malfunction indicator lamp (mil). Diagnostic trouble codes (dtcs) p0304, p0305, p0306, or p0430 may also be present. Evidence of misfire may be available in misfire freeze frame data even with no active dtcs.
action:

follow the service procedure steps to correct the condition.
service procedure
  1. acquire misfire freeze frame data and dtc’s with the integrated diagnostic system (ids). Use the following steps with ids to obtain misfire freeze frame data.
    1. select toolbox
    1. data logger
    1. modules
    1. pcm
    1. select the following pids:
      1. mff_load
      1. mff_rpm
  1. does the misfire concern only occur in humid or damp conditions?
    1. yes - proceed to step 3.
    1. no - this article does not apply. Refer to powertrain control/emission diagnosis (pc/ed) manual section 3: Powertrain symptom index to inspect such areas as ignition, compression, and injection.
  1. does the misfire freeze frame data indicate engine speed above 2500 rpm and load 100% or above? (figure 1)


    figure 1 - 14-0017
    1. yes - proceed to step 4.
    1. no - this article does not apply. Refer to pc/ed manual section 3: Powertrain symptom index to inspect such areas as ignition, compression, and injection.
  1. is dtc p0430 present?
    1. yes - replace the left hand catalytic converter. Refer to workshop manual (wsm), section 309-00. Proceed to step 5.
    1. no - proceed to step 5.
  1. is the charge air cooler equipped with a top or bottom air deflector? (figure 2 and figure 3)

    figure 2 - 14-0017




    figure 3 - 14-0017
    1. yes - remove and discard. Refer to wsm, section 303-12. Proceed to step 6.
    1. no - proceed to step 6.
  1. note please advise the customer that this vehicle is equipped with an adaptive transmission shift strategy which allows the vehicle's computer to learn the transmission's unique parameters and improve shift quality. When the adaptive strategy is reset, the computer will begin a re-learning process. This re-learning process may result in firmer than normal upshifts and downshifts for several days.
    Reprogram the pcm to the latest calibration level using ids release 88.03 or higher. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
Is it me or every list item is number 1 ?!? I guess I have to replace them sequentially to get every Step right!

I'll look into TSB-14-0044 with my dealer too!
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This is what the TSB 14-0017 should like with corrected list item number

Originally Posted by makuloco2000
FORD: 2013-2014 F-150

This article supersedes TSB 12-11-15 to update the vehicle model years, build date, Service Procedure and Parts List.
ISSUE:

Some 2013-2014 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 3.5L gasoline turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) Ecoboost® engine, and built on or before 12/16/2013 may exhibit an intermittent stumble and/or misfire on hard acceleration after extended operation at highway speeds during high humidity or damp conditions. This may result in either a steady or flashing malfunction indicator lamp (MIL). Diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0304, P0305, P0306, or P0430 may also be present. Evidence of misfire may be available in Misfire Freeze Frame Data even with no active DTCs.
ACTION:

Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE

1. Acquire Misfire Freeze Frame Data and DTC’s with the Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS). Use the following steps with IDS to obtain Misfire Freeze Frame Data.
->Select Toolbox
->Data Logger
->Modules
->PCM
->Select the following PIDs:
->MFF_LOAD
->MFF_RPM


2. Does the misfire concern only occur in humid or damp conditions?
->Yes - proceed to Step 3.
->No - this article does not apply. Refer to Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis (PC/ED) manual Section 3: Powertrain Symptom Index to inspect such areas as Ignition, Compression, and Injection.


3. Does the Misfire Freeze Frame Data indicate engine speed above 2500 rpm and load 100% or above? (Figure 1)

Figure 1 - 14-0017

->Yes - proceed to Step 4.
->No - this article does not apply. Refer to PC/ED manual Section 3: Powertrain Symptom Index to inspect such areas as Ignition, Compression, and Injection.


4. Is DTC P0430 present?

->Yes - replace the left hand catalytic converter. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 309-00. Proceed to Step 5.
->No - Proceed to Step 5.


5. Is the charge air cooler equipped with a top or bottom air deflector? (Figure 2 and Figure 3)

Figure 2 - 14-0017



Figure 3 - 14-0017
->Yes - remove and discard. Refer to WSM, Section 303-12. Proceed to Step 6.
->No - proceed to Step 6.


6. NOTE PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION'S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration level using IDS release 88.03 or higher. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
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Old 03-13-2014, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RoLLo1
I went straight to the dealer when I learned of this new TSB. That was 3 days ago. In the video there is information on the paper he is looking at that helped me decide whether or not my vehicle fit the parameters for the fix. I believe it was any ecoboost f150 built before December 2012. My 2013 was manufactured on 9/12. I only had the single deflector plate up top. I told the service tech exactly what I wanted them to do. Do the regular service interval procedure and then apply the TSB. He asked about a CEL and I said no, I always locked it into 5th when the shudder began not wanting to risk any potential damage or embarrassment. So...they did it. He came back and said it didnt apply to my vehicle because they could"nt find anything in the eternal diagnostic log but forced the new calibration anyways per my instructions. The fix works perfectly. It was awkward at first due to how accustomed I was to the shudder around 50-60mph. I had to get used to how smooth everything became. The turbos are definitely louder at low rpms in 6th gear. My gas mileage hasnt seemed to change at all since the recalibration but that may be due to the learning period the PCM is still going through. Truck is bone stock at the moment and still strong as ****. UNFORTUNATELY...the brand new SCT Livewire TS I ordered a few days before my visit is now incompatible with my PCM's brand new strategy. I tried to hook it up yesterday and nope... Which probably means any tuner you are using now will require a new update if you get this TSB. I called SCT and MPT and they didnt seem to know anything about the new TSB at that time. FML... Anyone know how long it typically takes the tuning software engineers to get their **** moving on these updated calibrations from Ford? Talkin to you SCT...
I meant to say any vehicle manufactured on or before 12/13. Sorry about the typo.
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The heart of the TSB is pretty simple...
- Remove the lower sticker shield, if it's there (2 minutes?)
- Remove the upper deflector, if it's there (5 minutes?)
- Load latest PCM calibration (I don't know how long the actual load takes, but it can't take much more time than hooking up the IDS system and pulling the diagnostic data, and it's mostly just time waiting for the PCM to update, tech can be doing something else).
I'd like to know what the lower sticker shield and upper deflector look like so I can remove them myself. I run a tune anyways so I would rather not take it into ford for the update.
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Originally Posted by TRiGGeR605
I'd like to know what the lower sticker shield and upper deflector look like so I can remove them myself. I run a tune anyways so I would rather not take it into ford for the update.
Left image shows band-aid #1, 'upper deflector', right image shows band-aid #2, block off 'sticker'. Latest TSB has you remove either of these if they were previously installed.... Early trucks will have neither unless one of the superseded TSB's was already performed.

LEFT: Upper Deflector. ---------- RIGHT: Block Off Sticker


I've never had the stumble issue, but even before having the latest factory PCM calibration, I had my foot into the throttle and the turbo's spooled up often. Latest calibration (and most aftermarket tunes) make more boost with less throttle position, so the short answer is latest PCM update or not, EcoBoost engines like to be driven in BOOST, not ECO, which works out fine for me...

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I agree^^

These engines should be ran like a diesel, hard. Our company mechanic as a kid always told me to get it to operating temperature and work the turbo. It always kept everything running correctly it seams...

On my eco, I make sure to pull a few WOT bursts. Never had an issue with anything...
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I have a 2013 eco and at a quick look I see the top deflector.

So theoretically, if I pull of the two "band aids" it will help the inter cooler perform like it was meant to and I should gain power?

I run a tune so I figure I don't need to go to ford for the fix and I have never experienced the shudder.


I had a 2012 eco without the band aid and it got better mileage and felt faster than my 2013.
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Wonder if they'll ever release anything to replace the chitty CAC they put in some trucks, mine included. Hoping I can go aftermarket this Summer.


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