itguy08

I think there are also updated parts. In the Youtube video, Makaluko says there is a revised part # and that after a certain build date in 2014 the TSB does not apply.

Ford should step up to the plate and warranty this for 100k!

vozaday

Agreed, also tells us that they may not have upgraded the chains for the 13-14's. To bad, I was hanging onto false hope on that one.

Tyssa'sRide

At least they are acknowledging the problem. Or at least a symptom of the problem. It is a step ahead!

Ford850

Keep in mind that 'limp mode' is a result of misfires. If you read Ford's response letter to the NHTSA regarding the CAC issues, they give a pretty good explanation of when, why, and how long they are required to drop into limp mode. So plugs or coils could cause the same limp mode results as moisture in the CAC.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...018-57516P.pdf

huntnrig

Cylinder 5 is on bank #2. Bank #2 is where all the water/condensation pools up and when I walked on it the engine sucked that water in. Cylinder #5 obviously ingested a **** load of water, likely causing a flashover situation where that water instantly turned into steam which toasted the plug and likely the coil.

That's what I believe happened... This truck has never had the CAC update. In our climate it's a problem... My other truck had the same problem.

hemihunter

This is why I just bought the best aftermarket one. No more issues,extra flow, lower air temps and most of all it will never get heat soaked under any circumstance where the old one would easily. My stock CAC hadoil pouring out of it when I took it off. If its not one thing its another hey? Anyway keep me informed huntinrig. Your lucky that yourotor didn't throw a rod from the increased cylinder pressure. Ttys

huntnrig

I don't think I'm going to spend any money "upgrading" this truck. They are actually arguing with me that the water ingestion from the CAC couldn't cause the misfire and ruined plug/coil. I'm talking with the mechanic in an hour or so.

They are also arguing with me over performing the new TSB for the timing chain noise saying my truck hasn't actually failed yet.... WOW! This was a complete opposite of what they told me a couple weeks ago after keeping the truck for over a week with no solution. "We know there is a problem sir, you have warranty, it's going to get fixed but we have no solution at this time"...

I showed the service writer the solution and she goes into a tirade about how they can't perform the TSB because it's not the problem that was diagnosed? WTF?!?!?!!?!? They wrote "timing chain noise" on the damn bill! This is very irritating Ford.

One of Ford's own techs (FordTechMakuloco) even used MY VIDEO in the description of his announcement video to show the problem and share the TSB!!!!!

Ford850

Ahh, I understand what you mean now. I wasn't connecting the dots. Thanks.

Cord

Attached is the TSB. Really doesn't cover anything that we haven't already discussed. Replace chain, when it fails again, replace chain again. The one item to note is that the emissions warranty will be covering the timing chain replacement. I just can't determine what length of time this warranty is. I think it might be 36,000mi. See page 17/22: http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...11Warranty.pdf

boostdriver

Supposedly the emissions warranty is 8 years or 80,000 miles.
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/2013...ions-warranty/

But for 8/80,000 it says "certain emission parts", so maybe only specific parts are covered for the longer 8/80k period? Hard to say just by reading that in the link.

But...maybe it's really only 3/36k for the chain? It says only 8/80 coverage for very specific items below:

The warranty coverage period for:
Passenger cars, light duty trucks (applies to vehicles up to 8,500 pounds GVWR)
8 years or 80,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for catalytic converters, electronic engine control unit (ECU), transmission control module (TCM), and any other onboard emissions diagnostic module.
3 years or 36,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for all other covered parts.