ABF150Fan

Thanks for the tips!

Sounds like it was quite the day for you but I'm sure totally worth it when you finished, and the feeling of pride knowing you did such a beautiful job.

my wife seems to think it would be too big of a job and is trying to convince me of getting the dealer to do it... I don't make $900 bucks a day... what I figure I'll save up here in Canada.

The thought of doing it myself is also a motivating factor. When I get some swatches in I'll be comparing the leather to the "leather" in my Ford Flex. And when my blue jeans comes in I'll be checking out what colours would look good with it. I'm leaning towards Dark Graphite Grey with blue stitching.

Thanks again for the tips, they were more than expected.

JB 1 TIME

What's the difference between the katzkin perforated inserts versus other inserts?

Moddiction

Perforation adds lots of little holes in the leather.

nineball

damn... 7 hours? i had my clazzios on in about 1.5 hours, and that was only because i didn't really know what i was doing

Moddiction

Clazzio are just seat covers. Those slide over existing seats so very quick to install. Katzkin replace the factory seat skins so fit and look like oem with even better quality than stock.

nineball

true, but the katskinz and the clazzio are both high quality parts and both are better than the stock ford leather imho. no one outside of a professional upholsterer would know that the clazzio are not stock leather seats. everyone who has seen my clazzio covers could not believe they were seat covers, and that includes my best friend's brother-in-law who is a service manager for a ford dealer.

for me it was a no-brainer. clazzio looked just as good, was way easier to install, they were cheaper, i didn't have to rip my stock seats apart and when i sell my truck i can easily remove and resell them to get some cash back and the stock cloth will look just as good as when they were covered. to each his own but when looking at the big picture the clazzio won hands down. YMMV.

so long as one is happy with their purchase it doesn't really matter in the end.

travesty

With all due respect nineball, I don't see them as the same at all.
The Clazzio's do not attach firmly to the seat like upholstery should. I've been down the seat cover route before and they are going to move around on top of the cloth seat, that's just a fact. Because they move they will bunch, wrinkle and pucker over time and begin to look trashy if they don't already. They are, after all, just seat covers, not true upholstery. Also the cloth upholstery underneath is going to wear with use. It may not get dirty, stain or rip/tear but it will wear with use. When you take the covers off in a couple years the foam and cloth bolsters on the drivers seat are still going to show wear. They will not look brand new.
Also, I don't know where you live but if you can sell used seat covers then bravo, I don't believe there is a market for such a thing. There is probably about as much demand for used seat covers as there is for the cloth upholstery kits that are being removed...basically zero.
What I do know is that when I go to sell my truck I will sell it with a leather interior. not a cloth interior with seat covers. NADA does not have an add for seat covers but they do for leather and the added value more than offsets the extra $100 and five hours labor for the Katzkins over Clazzios. (even if you are magically able to recoup some of the cost by selling the used Clazzios). But that's just my opinion and that's why I believe Katzkins were the no-brainer in this decision.

Moddiction

I had clazzios in my Honda S2000 a while ago. They did look pretty good. Materials were no where near as nice though as the Katzkin leather. They fit good however you could tell they were seat covers as they really didn't look tight around the edges and bolsters etc. Kind of flattened the whole seat out.
With the Clazzio only the insert of seat is leather. Headrests, body of seats etc are all "high quality PVC"

Katzkin does use vinyl as well for the side and backs of front seats. Genuine leather is used entire front of the front seats and then inserts for the back seats.

Not saying Clazzio seat covers aren't nice, they just can't be compared to Katzkin for quality, fit, look etc.

nineball

have you had a set of clazzio? i've been down the seat cover road many times, probably as many if not more than you have with well over 55 cars to my name over the years, and none have been as good as the clazzio. just from the photos in this thread alone anyone would be able to see the quality of them. take a look at the photos on page 2 of this thread and you will see that while the pattern is different the fit and finish is the same, and possibly a little better with the clazzio as they have less wrinkles in the photos posted. the clazzio covers do not move, but you would only know that if you had a set.

as far as wear and tear, well it is going to happen to every seat in the world regardless if it is leather, cloth, vinyl or sheepskin, that's just a fact of life.

as i said before to each his own, but unless you have had a set of these covers you can't really comment on them. they are not the same as covers you can buy from a local store.

no offense intended but i wouldn't expect anything less from a katskinz dealer i have yet to meet a vendor who tells potential buyers that the product they offer is not the best of it's kind in the world, and i would expect no less. you don't make money from clazzio covers but you do from katskinz sales.

Moddiction

I actually do have a wholesale account for Clazzio as well but there is no debate which is a higher end product.