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i donít think so. I know for a fact I am not ď far offĒ the margins used. Some dealers use more and some less, but that is a very good average.
Again, wrong.


My source.... myself as a Texas licensed used car dealer. Lol. Below are what you are seeing are sold at auction.

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Again, wrong.


My source.... myself as a Texas licensed used car dealer. Lol. Below are what you are seeing are sold at auction.

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typical wannabe. Everybody who acquires a ď used car dealer licenseĒ is just that a wannabe car dealer.

ok so the auction prices you posted are sold auction prices ? If so those numbers fall right in line with what I have been saying. Even though those numbers are $ 56,000.00 to $ 61,000.00, those prices are not without markups for the person selling the raptor. What I am saying is the person who originally owned the raptor did not get these prices via trade with a car dealer. And I mean a legitimate car dealer, not a used wannabe car dealer.
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typical wannabe. Everybody who acquires a ď used car dealer licenseĒ is just that a wannabe car dealer.

ok so the auction prices you posted are sold auction prices ? If so those numbers fall right in line with what I have been saying. Even though those numbers are $ 56,000.00 to $ 61,000.00, those prices are not without markups for the person selling the raptor. What I am saying is the person who originally owned the raptor did not get these prices via trade with a car dealer. And I mean a legitimate car dealer, not a used wannabe car dealer.

i was just like you before I actually started my business. Immediately assumed there was a crapload of markup in used cars, raptors or not. There is very very little money in used car sales, which is why big dealers push insane volume.

also, getting your dealers license is far from easy, so there is a difference between flipping crap boxes on Craigslist and running a legitimate business. Try again. Until youíve done it, your arguement holds almost no water.
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i was just like you before I actually started my business. Immediately assumed there was a crapload of markup in used cars, raptors or not. There is very very little money in used car sales, which is why big dealers push insane volume.

also, getting your dealers license is far from easy, so there is a difference between flipping crap boxes on Craigslist and running a legitimate business. Try again. Until youíve done it, your arguement holds almost no water.
typical reply from a used car dealer. There is no money in used cars ? LOL. Not buying it. I have two good friends who are in the car business, actually legitimate car dealers, used car profits are not that bad.

i respectfully disagree.
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typical reply from a used car dealer. There is no money in used cars ? LOL. Not buying it. I have two good friends who are in the car business, actually legitimate car dealers, used car profits are not that bad.

i respectfully disagree.
by definition I am a legitimate car dealer... not sure what the hell youre talking about.I make a good living doing it as a hobby as it isnít my main source of income... but Iím sure your friends are right. Actual experience in the industry and not relying on heresay is a pretty large discrediting factor isnít it? Lol. I donít run some buy here pay here lot...

However, youíre salty about your raptors ďdepreciationĒ. I get it, with an 84 month loan itís pretty easy to be upside down.
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by definition I am a legitimate car dealer... not sure what the hell youre talking about.I make a good living doing it as a hobby as it isnít my main source of income... but Iím sure your friends are right. Actual experience in the industry and not relying on heresay is a pretty large discrediting factor isnít it? Lol. I donít run some buy here pay here lot...

However, youíre salty about your raptors ďdepreciationĒ. I get it, with an 84 month loan itís pretty easy to be upside down.
i hate to break the news to you Johnny ď used car salesmen ď but I have the title to the raptor in my gun safe. Paid cash. Free and clear. I donít let ď usedĒ car salesmen beat me. Unfortunately used car salesmen are like congressmen and senators, maggots in the swamp.
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i hate to break the news to you Johnny ď used car salesmen ď but I have the title to the raptor in my gun safe. Paid cash. Free and clear. I donít let ď usedĒ car salesmen beat me. Unfortunately used car salesmen are like congressmen and senators, maggots in the swamp.
luckily I do it as a hobby and donít swim through the swap to make a living. I am not a ďused car salesmanĒ lol. I get it, youíre salty, but blaming the facts with the auction data to prove it on me being a scummy car salesman isnít going to make you less in the hole, just makes you look bad.


I wonít prove my merit to you, because I donít care. I am not trying to beat anyone, rather educate you on how there isnít 10% margin on these things, the market is far too competitive. I was extremely ignorant in the car buying/selling market until I started doing it legitimately and understanding why dealers werenít budging much on the sale prices of used cars...
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Not sure about the margins down in the states, but up here in rural dealership Canada there is about a 7% margin on used vehicles.......I am an accountant.....seen the year end books....I know they are true numbers lol
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Not sure about the margins down in the states, but up here in rural dealership Canada there is about a 7% margin on used vehicles.......I am an accountant.....seen the year end books....I know they are true numbers lol
7 % is a absolute minimum in the states.

they are easily 10 % plus.

Go trade a vehicle in with a car dealer and then see what he puts it on his lot for in relation to what he allowed you for the trade.
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7 % is a absolute minimum in the states.

they are easily 10 % plus.

Go trade a vehicle in with a car dealer and then see what he puts it on his lot for in relation to what he allowed you for the trade.

I just traded my Tacoma in, they listed it for $500 more than they gave me lol
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