Tuner question
#11
Ok. Please explain or show me proof, since you're calling me out.
Edit: Here is a thread that backs up what I always say about the gotts mod and only providing slight hp increase at 3500-4000k: http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-...ntake-mod.html
Your engine is already getting plenty of air. The throttle plate is barely open when you're cruising around, staying under 2k rpm. You're not going to get better MPG.
Programmers and your right foot help increase mpg, the gotts...not so much.
Last edited by Tackle; 03-22-2013 at 05:40 PM.
#12
Yes, you should almost always see some increase in MPG even with performance tunes since they almost always trim the fuel and increase the spark. The problem is finding the new sweet spots and NOT driving it like you stole it.
Because your gearing (obviously) doesn't change with a tune the better MPG RPM's may be a bit different so you'll need to adjust how you drive. (Easier in a Manual than in a stick.)
Because your gearing (obviously) doesn't change with a tune the better MPG RPM's may be a bit different so you'll need to adjust how you drive. (Easier in a Manual than in a stick.)
#13
Senior Member
Ok. Please explain or show me proof, since you're calling me out.
Edit: Here is a thread that backs up what I always say about the gotts mod and only providing slight hp increase at 3500-4000k: http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-...ntake-mod.html
Your engine is already getting plenty of air. The throttle plate is barely open when you're cruising around, staying under 2k rpm. You're not going to get better MPG.
Programmers and your right foot help increase mpg, the gotts...not so much.
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Zach Towns (03-23-2013)
#14
Senior Member
The gots mod has to do with air temps. And cleaner cooler air outside the engine bay. Noone doubts it does something. Or muscle cars eouldnt use shaker hoods and hood blowers. We just don't see a big enough improovement. I tried it and got no benefit. I later went to carls jr. And for a 6$ burger and saw instant gratification. Lol what I'm saying is the gots mod works different for different people in different altitudes.
#15
(First of all, Forced induction is a completely different animal. )
CAI and the "ALL POWERFULL OZ" aka the Ram Air and Shaker do absolutely nothing except increase flow by decreasing restrictions inherent in stock intake systems. The shaker in modern mustangs don't even do that since it has to twist and turn the air to turn into the TB.
The restrictions in a stock system are mandatory to balance underhood noise and optimal "stock" intake temps to meet factory specs/designs. (They don't design these to be super cars, they design them for the Lowest common denominator. ...the idiot owners.)
The Gots and other NA Air intakes are probably 90% air flow and 10% air temps. The air flow moves to fast for it to even begin to matter. The only time someone will really see a difference is on colder days/mornings. Colder ambient temps usually translate to better performance.
The misconception is that intakes add Hp. They do not, they free up what is already there. The trade off is usually more erratic MAF readings. (Very minute usually) The better designed systems examine not only the better air flow but also the optimal non turbulent air flow through the maf.
CAI and the "ALL POWERFULL OZ" aka the Ram Air and Shaker do absolutely nothing except increase flow by decreasing restrictions inherent in stock intake systems. The shaker in modern mustangs don't even do that since it has to twist and turn the air to turn into the TB.
The restrictions in a stock system are mandatory to balance underhood noise and optimal "stock" intake temps to meet factory specs/designs. (They don't design these to be super cars, they design them for the Lowest common denominator. ...the idiot owners.)
The Gots and other NA Air intakes are probably 90% air flow and 10% air temps. The air flow moves to fast for it to even begin to matter. The only time someone will really see a difference is on colder days/mornings. Colder ambient temps usually translate to better performance.
The misconception is that intakes add Hp. They do not, they free up what is already there. The trade off is usually more erratic MAF readings. (Very minute usually) The better designed systems examine not only the better air flow but also the optimal non turbulent air flow through the maf.
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ColtRice17 (03-23-2013)
#16
Senior Member
My point entirely. Even if you did gotts and a 120mm throttle body it still wouldn't matter because air flow bottle necks going into the heads. If you really want to increase hp have some head work done.