nitrogen fact or fiction?
11-02-2013, 11:33 PM
#12
Dried pure nitrogen is used on high performance jet fighters. Its ome big advantage is that it dosent expand as much when heated which is a big issue when trying to stop a 25 ton jet fighter from 180 mph with wheel brakes. It prebents the tire from blowing up when severely heated by the brakes. The advantage in a passenger vehicle is negligible. Perhaps in a high performance car such as Corvette. I wont pay extra for it.
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11-03-2013, 12:45 AM
#14
It works well in heavy equipment with the O-ring seal on the rim.
11-03-2013, 01:53 AM
#15
Fiction. Air is 80% nitrogen anyway. If other gasses "leaked" out, that would just leave N in your tires anyway. It's a scam. One dork friend was afraid to let me put air in his near-flat tire. Get real, it's the LEAST important car thing you can worry about.
11-03-2013, 02:02 AM
#16
And with tires being one of the biggest expenses, second to fuel, that the average truck goes through, finding a way to make them safely last doesnt seem like a waste of time. But if its all for not on a daily driver id rather save the money.
I was really looking for info from those that have run them like the guys that said they get it for free. I live in Indiana and we dont get low temps like that here or nearly as severe fluctuations from day to day.
Last edited by harding01screw; 11-03-2013 at 02:09 AM.
11-03-2013, 04:13 AM
#17
Senior Member
Im running nitrogen in my tires from the pickup. I believe they charged $40. I may be wrong.
I can't say I notice any significant ride difference, as of yet. But I do agree with the temperature effects.
I also saw somewhere on here that it's lighter. I haven't heard much about that so that too could be wrong.
I'll be switching to Toyo A/T II's soon and likely be filling them with nitrogen. I'm happy with the way it is in my tires now, and I live in a cold climate 50% of the year, and if the weight aspect of true, than I don't mind a few extra bucks.
I can't say I notice any significant ride difference, as of yet. But I do agree with the temperature effects.
I also saw somewhere on here that it's lighter. I haven't heard much about that so that too could be wrong.
I'll be switching to Toyo A/T II's soon and likely be filling them with nitrogen. I'm happy with the way it is in my tires now, and I live in a cold climate 50% of the year, and if the weight aspect of true, than I don't mind a few extra bucks.
11-03-2013, 04:23 AM
#18
FACTS:
Did you know that the tire jockey doing the job has a good chance at introducing air back into your tire? What's the point?
Did you know that Nitrogen expands and contracts just like Oxygen does?
Did you know Nitrogen won't burn which is a good thing in case you spin out cut a fuel line and your tire blows the fuel won't ignite from the tire explosion.
Did you know that the tire jockey doing the job has a good chance at introducing air back into your tire? What's the point?
Did you know that Nitrogen expands and contracts just like Oxygen does?
Did you know Nitrogen won't burn which is a good thing in case you spin out cut a fuel line and your tire blows the fuel won't ignite from the tire explosion.
Last edited by Sitedrifter; 11-03-2013 at 04:26 AM.
11-03-2013, 04:25 AM
#19
Senior Member
That's the true internet way! Shout out your answer without any evidence or proof to back it up.
Pure nitrogen in your tires is better than just compressed air if it was just a straight up toss up of one of the other. As stated before, yes nitrogen is a bigger molecule, so it won't escape as easily as all the other elements in regular compressed air like oxygen. But it's real benefit comes from temperature spikes. It's pretty good at just being nitrogen and not expanding or contracting or freezing. So places like here, where it goes from +40 to -40, it's obviously a good choice. But air has elements that don't react so well to those temperature spikes, especially in terms of water, (humidity in the air). So you can get a rougher ride (noticed on cold mornings) and different tire pressure depending on the temperature. Which can lead to faster wear.
I've never paid for nitrogen, as I always get it free so why not. But if it were to cost you like 20 bucks a tire, don't bother with it. Especially on used tires. Save that 80 or 100 bucks and put a down payments on new tires.
Protip, put the new tires on the back and you'll get a more even wear pattern after a year. Assuming the front still have good tread that you can steer with.
Pure nitrogen in your tires is better than just compressed air if it was just a straight up toss up of one of the other. As stated before, yes nitrogen is a bigger molecule, so it won't escape as easily as all the other elements in regular compressed air like oxygen. But it's real benefit comes from temperature spikes. It's pretty good at just being nitrogen and not expanding or contracting or freezing. So places like here, where it goes from +40 to -40, it's obviously a good choice. But air has elements that don't react so well to those temperature spikes, especially in terms of water, (humidity in the air). So you can get a rougher ride (noticed on cold mornings) and different tire pressure depending on the temperature. Which can lead to faster wear.
I've never paid for nitrogen, as I always get it free so why not. But if it were to cost you like 20 bucks a tire, don't bother with it. Especially on used tires. Save that 80 or 100 bucks and put a down payments on new tires.
Protip, put the new tires on the back and you'll get a more even wear pattern after a year. Assuming the front still have good tread that you can steer with.
If you really want to know, IMO, your response is a typical internet response. Some jerk off shoutin out a negative comment about someone else without fully reading the thread, lol!!
BTW, there is absolutely no evidence from anyone anywhere that shows nitrogen is better to use then compressed air. The only thing you'll find on the subject are people's opinions, nothing factual (which is what your statement is). The only factual information that you will find shows that there is no advantage of using nitrogen over compressed air (this is not my opinion, these are the facts - my company actually paid to have testing done to see if there was any real advantage. Monday I will see if I can find the paperwork that shows the results).
11-03-2013, 06:00 AM
#20
Nitrogen doesn't expand and contract in different temperatures. Therefore when it gets cold out it won't kick on your tpms light for going a few pounds (psi) low. As far as helping with gas mileage... I don't believe that for a second.