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Old 03-13-2019, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OhioLariat
The factory headlight wiring in these trucks (well, most vehicles in general) is barely adequate at best, and I wouldn't want to add one more amp to the load. There are posts all over lighting forums about running relay setups and larger wires netting higher output form otherwise stock systems. I just haven't had the gumption to do it to mine.
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Yep never argued against relays lol. They will always give Better output because you're getting power straight from the source and not routing it thru switches and/or other accessories robbing voltage.

All my stuff has relays and ran thru an aux fuse block. Also all my lights are on dedicated switches except for fogs and under dash lights. Fogs come on with normal switch and aftermarket switch (aftermarket fogs) and my under dash lights come on with dome light or dedicated switch with one way diode to not back feed dome light. At one time had rock lights that came on when I unlocked truck/opened door/ or flipped switch but those didn't last too many winters LOL

More or less was just being a smartass because when people ask wiring questions 1 and 2 they either don't follow thru or have someone else do it lol He wasn't going to wire them to his brights without asking how and if I responded I would've drawn a diagram using a relay

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Old 03-13-2019, 08:44 PM
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I to have been pulled over a couple years for 6 forward facing lights. HID Headlights, HID Fogs, & HID Driving Lights. Never in the 3 years I had them was I ever flashed, like you said the cop was just flexing his muscles and being that I knew the law that you can have more than 4 forward facing lights on at a time it was hard to argue. Which brings me to another question, how the head does the new F250 have quad beam headlights and fogs STOCK?

OP, look into DEPO fog housings. They are factory replacements but have a clean lens. I would suggest a good 3000K Halogen bulb in them. As for headlights, look into a set of Lightning Headlights and corners. They have clear lens also. You could even go a step further and retrofit a set up HID projectors in them.

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I really wanted to point out to him that he technically had 6 forward facing lights.... the headlights have those LED's that surround it, and he had on fogs too. But, I wasn't going to get into it unless he asked for my license and registration. All he did was tell me to turn it off, and got back in his warm Explorer. It was literally a blizzard, which is why I had them on.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Z7What
I to have been pulled over a couple years for 6 forward facing lights. HID Headlights, HID Fogs, & HID Driving Lights. Never in the 3 years I had them was I ever flashed, like you said the cop was just flexing his muscles and being that I knew the law that you can have more than 4 forward facing lights on at a time it was hard to argue. Which brings me to another question, how the head does the new F250 have quad beam headlights and fogs STOCK?

OP, look into DEPO fog housings. They are factory replacements but have a clean lens. I would suggest a good 3000K Halogen bulb in them. As for headlights, look into a set of Lightning Headlights and corners. They have clear lens also. You could even go a step further and retrofit a set up HID projectors in them.

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I'm curious to understand what you meant by "I knew the law"

Quick google search shows Louisiana does not allow more than 4 forward facing lights to be on at a time. You are allowed 2 headlights, 2 fog lights, 2 driving lights, and 2 passing lights but only 4 can be on.

https://law.justia.com/codes/louisia...-32/rs-32-326/

Utah has the same law

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title41/Ch...-6a-S1616.html

Do you have an updated Louisiana law that allows 6 lights?

Or do you have lights < 300 candle power?
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Originally Posted by fordguy2100 View Post
I'm curious to understand what you meant by "I knew the law"

Quick google search shows Louisiana does not allow more than 4 forward facing lights to be on at a time. You are allowed 2 headlights, 2 fog lights, 2 driving lights, and 2 passing lights but only 4 can be on.

https://law.justia.com/codes/louisia...-32/rs-32-326/

Utah has the same law

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title41/Ch...-6a-S1616.html

Do you have an updated Louisiana law that allows 6 lights?

Or do you have lights < 300 candle power?
"Effective 5/10/2016" ----- Mine were in before this date.... I should be grandfathered in... no?

BTW, I think Z7 just mistyped that.... I think it was supposed to say can't. That is what I thought when I originally read it, anyway.
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"Effective 5/10/2016" ----- Mine were in before this date.... I should be grandfathered in... no?

BTW, I think Z7 just mistyped that.... I think it was supposed to say can't. That is what I thought when I originally read it, anyway.
Ah I thought he meant it was hard for the cop to argue because he knew (thought) he was legal.

And LOL I'm sure if you told the cop you were grandfathered in he'd shake your hand and tell you to be on your way. Just make sure to take a pic with your car and find a newspaper for 2003 just to prove it LOL <- heck that might make him laugh just enough to forget about it
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Sorry for the thread hi jack OP
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I don't think it's a threadjack... it's all pertinent info. Good to know, because I didn't know until I got pulled over.
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I put LEDs in the fog light housings on my 2000. They are far brighter than the Halogens.
LEDs for Headlights can be a concern for focusing but not with the Fog lights as they are a flood beam.
They light up the ditches nicely.
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I put LEDs in the fog light housings on my 2000. They are far brighter than the Halogens.
LEDs for Headlights can be a concern for focusing but not with the Fog lights as they are a flood beam.
They light up the ditches nicely.
Fog lights are expressly *not* a flood beam. They are designed to have a tightly-focused, wide horizontal pattern to avoid scatter and reflection from the water droplets in fog (although Ford's execution of this premise on the 10th-gen's fog lights leaves a lot to be desired).

Yours, on the other hand, *are* likely flood lights (now), since the reflector and lens were designed for use with a precisely-placed halogen filament, not a random LED bulb.

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These pics are of a Jeep Cherokee that had LED bulbs installed, but the principle is the same. The pattern on the garage door is *not* what you want from a fog light (and not what you want to display to oncoming traffic, either).





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Originally Posted by OhioLariat View Post
Fog lights are expressly *not* a flood beam. They are designed to have a tightly-focused, wide horizontal pattern to avoid scatter and reflection from the water droplets in fog (although Ford's execution of this premise on the 10th-gen's fog lights leaves a lot to be desired).

Yours, on the other hand, *are* likely flood lights (now), since the reflector and lens were designed for use with a precisely-placed halogen filament, not a random LED bulb.

EDIT:
These pics are of a Jeep Cherokee that had LED bulbs installed, but the principle is the same. The pattern on the garage door is *not* what you want from a fog light (and not what you want to display to oncoming traffic, either).

Well, the Fog lights on my F-150 were not a focused beam with halogen bulbs in them.
Iíve tried LEDs for headlights on one of my Motorcycles that has separate bulbs for high and low beam. The low works fine but the high beam did not have nearly the throw distance compared to the Halogen so I changed it back.
Iím currently installing these small LED flood lights for increased visibility on the Suzuki Bandit 1250.
https://www.rigidindustries.com/igni...es-ignite.html
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