Has anyone done a 302 swap to a 97-03 F150 w/ a 5speed?
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Senior Member
[QUOTE=zap;1141155]I like the EFI delete...but I'd go with MFI instead of carbs. Here's another option if you feel like getting into a bit more work...
Hey Zap, how did you miss this Cummins installation?
Hey Zap, how did you miss this Cummins installation?
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Federal EPA laws require that you must use the same or newer model year, along with all emission control equipment....... To be legal.
Then again some states don't check it all so there's that. And there is no federal police force except that FBI so if you keep a low profile nobody's probably ever going to cite you for it. At least not at the federal level.
But if you ever want to sell it theres something to be considered. Because you're then committing a federal crime. Again probably not a problem unless you get busted by the feds for something else.
somebody in New Jersey found out last year, they were fined many thousands of dollars... Even after declaring not street legal. It was still a crime to sell something in nj that wasnt legal.
The bottom line is doing stuff like this is really questionable today due to legalities. This isnt 1970 anymore. Your time and money is better spent fixing your own vehicle correctly. But if you do do it, you should make sure it's 100% street legal and that you can legally sell it if you want to in the future. There would be questions about insuring something that's illegal as well... If not fully disclosed to the insurance company you would not have a leg to stand on to receive reimbursement... You should talk to your insurance company about that too.
Then again some states don't check it all so there's that. And there is no federal police force except that FBI so if you keep a low profile nobody's probably ever going to cite you for it. At least not at the federal level.
But if you ever want to sell it theres something to be considered. Because you're then committing a federal crime. Again probably not a problem unless you get busted by the feds for something else.
somebody in New Jersey found out last year, they were fined many thousands of dollars... Even after declaring not street legal. It was still a crime to sell something in nj that wasnt legal.
The bottom line is doing stuff like this is really questionable today due to legalities. This isnt 1970 anymore. Your time and money is better spent fixing your own vehicle correctly. But if you do do it, you should make sure it's 100% street legal and that you can legally sell it if you want to in the future. There would be questions about insuring something that's illegal as well... If not fully disclosed to the insurance company you would not have a leg to stand on to receive reimbursement... You should talk to your insurance company about that too.
Last edited by mbb; 12-09-2022 at 09:48 AM.
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Smarter than most Racoons
Federal EPA laws require that you must use the same or newer model year, along with all emission control equipment....... To be legal.
Then again some states don't check it all so there's that. And there is no federal police force except that FBI so if you keep a low profile nobody's probably ever going to cite you for it. At least not at the federal level.
Then again some states don't check it all so there's that. And there is no federal police force except that FBI so if you keep a low profile nobody's probably ever going to cite you for it. At least not at the federal level.
The ATF and IRS (I'm pretty sure they are fed) are actively hire law enforcement officers.
They have ads out.
Dept.of interior have officers too.
So does treasury.
Those are just off the top of my head. I would assume there are more fed dept's and bureaus that have law enforcement officers than don't.
Edit;
EPA has cops too. I was wondering who was busting all the diesel and tuner shops. It was the EPA itself.
From their website:
"EPA's criminal enforcement program focuses on criminal conduct that threatens people's health and the environment. It was established in 1982 and granted full law enforcement authority by congress in 1988. We enforce the nations laws by investigating cases, collecting evidence, conducting forensic analyses and providing legal guidance to assist with prosecutions."
Citation = https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/criminal-enforcement
I don't think they would ever come after an individual in a single situation, but with the current federal govt situation, one never knows.
Last edited by ultimatenoobie; 12-09-2022 at 12:10 PM.
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Don’t come in here posting pics in two different threads without some darn swap notes!!!
I have no need for a 4.2 to 5.0 swap (emissions county, low ROI, etc), but some of us are here to be entertained.
I have no need for a 4.2 to 5.0 swap (emissions county, low ROI, etc), but some of us are here to be entertained.
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ultimatenoobie (12-09-2022)
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You tell funny jokes.
The ATF and IRS (I'm pretty sure they are fed) are actively hire law enforcement officers.
They have ads out.
Dept.of interior have officers too.
So does treasury.
Those are just off the top of my head. I would assume there are more fed dept's and bureaus that have law enforcement officers than don't.
Edit;
EPA has cops too. I was wondering who was busting all the diesel and tuner shops. It was the EPA itself.
From their website:
"EPA's criminal enforcement program focuses on criminal conduct that threatens people's health and the environment. It was established in 1982 and granted full law enforcement authority by congress in 1988. We enforce the nations laws by investigating cases, collecting evidence, conducting forensic analyses and providing legal guidance to assist with prosecutions."
Citation = https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/criminal-enforcement
I don't think they would ever come after an individual in a single situation, but with the current federal govt situation, one never knows.
The ATF and IRS (I'm pretty sure they are fed) are actively hire law enforcement officers.
They have ads out.
Dept.of interior have officers too.
So does treasury.
Those are just off the top of my head. I would assume there are more fed dept's and bureaus that have law enforcement officers than don't.
Edit;
EPA has cops too. I was wondering who was busting all the diesel and tuner shops. It was the EPA itself.
From their website:
"EPA's criminal enforcement program focuses on criminal conduct that threatens people's health and the environment. It was established in 1982 and granted full law enforcement authority by congress in 1988. We enforce the nations laws by investigating cases, collecting evidence, conducting forensic analyses and providing legal guidance to assist with prosecutions."
Citation = https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/criminal-enforcement
I don't think they would ever come after an individual in a single situation, but with the current federal govt situation, one never knows.
Last edited by mbb; 12-09-2022 at 07:39 PM.
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That guy put up a few pics of a non-running truck with a carbed engine under the hood. Two posts and he hasn’t come back to the site.
Maybe he’ll answer a direct message. Try that route.
Maybe he’ll answer a direct message. Try that route.