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Old 03-19-2009, 06:32 PM
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Hey i was just thinking about this I know it couldn't happen now because of the starter... but you know the old cars that you had to crank by hand... could you crank one backward and it run or are there things that wont go backward... Just a random thing that popped into my head...
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Yep, that's how the reverse works in snowmobiles. You hit the button, the motor will idle down, and fire in reverse.
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Yep, that's how the reverse works in snowmobiles. You hit the button, the motor will idle down, and fire in reverse.
Really? How does it do that without stalling?
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I know a two stroke can run in reverse...I don't think a 4 stroke can though.
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Originally Posted by triden
I know a two stroke can run in reverse...I don't think a 4 stroke can though.
The 4 strokes work the same way, I just talked to my buddy who worked for the Polaris dealer.

EDIT:

Looked into it more, and the 4 strokes won't run backwards.

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A diesel engine may be able to run backwards for a bit, as it can run independant of the ignition, but a modern four stroke gasser cannot.

Two strokes sure, and older sleds do stall alot during the switch if they are not tuned well.
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Originally Posted by Ty
The 4 strokes work the same way, I just talked to my buddy who worked for the Polaris dealer.

EDIT:

Looked into it more, and the 4 strokes won't run backwards.
That's partly why the four strokes are so damn heavy. They need more head, crank/cam, and tranny.
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Oh boy... guys, let's take a step back.

4-stroke engines cannot run in reverse. There are reverse-rotation 4-strokes, but they require a complete redesign of the cam and valve timing, as well as several different parts to account for several design parameters.

2-stroke engines can run in reverse if you account for the different ignition timing requirements.

4-strokes aren't heavy because they need more head crank and cam. They aren't any heavier than a 2-stroke of the same size.

2-stroke engines can make a bit more power for their size because they fire every 2 strokes. 4-stroke engines need 4 strokes to fire once, which means for every power stroke, there are three wasteful non-power strokes. However, a 2 stroke engine is highly inefficient, doesn't last as long, and is horrible from an emissions standpoint.
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Your third and fourth statement are rather contradictory......

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third statement is wrong...No way in H E Double hocky sticky you're gonna tell me a 450 4 stroke is the same weight as a 250 2 stroke?


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