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Old 10-14-2014, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Welder7018

It will be better than the engine in it now. This one is on its last leg. Also im not looking for increased power or hp off the bat just something to keep this truck on the road and be diffrent at the same time. And maybe down the road throw some boost at the engine with a supercharger. I cant afford to rebuild the engine so i found a cheap low mile swap for it. Sure it wont have the same hauling low end torque that the truck 4.6 has but it will keep it on the road and thats my primary goal. I knew this before getting into this. Yes down the road ill do the PI upgrade. But for now this is just to get the truck running propperly again. My current engine in my truck is already a non pi engine. So it wont be any diffrent. The engine in it now has two dead cylinders.
Why not just get a 4.6 pi? They aren't hard to find..
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Originally Posted by Welder7018
I dont haul heavy loads with my truck anyway. And they are they are considered a 4.6L H.O. like the old H.O 5.0.

Thats fine lol. Ill just tell the shop specifics of what i want done.
98 and lower are NPI 4.6's (non performance improved). 99 and above have the improved power heads and intake on them. If I remember right, 99+ are about 40hp more than the 98- motors. They also don't use coil packs, they use COPs (coil on plug), so the wiring there would need to be changed (you can still use your coil packs as far as I know). I think you'd be better off to use your intake/exhaust on the new block/heads, it'd be a much simpler swap than trying to fabricate something that works with the mustang intake (air intake is on the left side of the motor on a mustang, opposite side from our trucks). You'd also need a tune to make it run on your existing computer, and the wiring harness would most likely need to be modified to fit where the sensors and such are located (not 100% on this, I know it has to be done with 2v to 4v swaps for the 99+ mustang gt's, what's my next move on my 00' GT). Not sure if the accessories would just transfer over (I'd assume so, but don't like to assume anything, lol).
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Originally Posted by Jackedup00

Why not just get a 4.6 pi? They aren't hard to find..
Ive been looking this is the only 4.6 i can find near me. That isnt $1000 and up and have 100k+ on it.
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Originally Posted by heffe2001

98 and lower are NPI 4.6's (non performance improved). 99 and above have the improved power heads and intake on them. If I remember right, 99+ are about 40hp more than the 98- motors. They also don't use coil packs, they use COPs (coil on plug), so the wiring there would need to be changed (you can still use your coil packs as far as I know). I think you'd be better off to use your intake/exhaust on the new block/heads, it'd be a much simpler swap than trying to fabricate something that works with the mustang intake (air intake is on the left side of the motor on a mustang, opposite side from our trucks). You'd also need a tune to make it run on your existing computer, and the wiring harness would most likely need to be modified to fit where the sensors and such are located (not 100% on this, I know it has to be done with 2v to 4v swaps for the 99+ mustang gt's, what's my next move on my 00' GT). Not sure if the accessories would just transfer over (I'd assume so, but don't like to assume anything, lol).
Why would i need a tune for it? Just curious. I thought it would be a direct swap since its a modular engine. And wouldnt the intake be diffrent since there are two diffrent engines the windsor (mine) and romeo?
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Originally Posted by Welder7018
Why would i need a tune for it? Just curious. I thought it would be a direct swap since its a modular engine. And wouldnt the intake be diffrent since there are two diffrent engines the windsor (mine) and romeo?
Fueling and timing parameters are different for a mustang setup. It would have to be tuned.
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Originally Posted by Carcrazygts2

Fueling and timing parameters are different for a mustang setup. It would have to be tuned.
So i need to buy a programmer from SCT and have them make a custom tune for it?
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You'll have to find a tuner to do it.
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Originally Posted by Carcrazygts2
You'll have to find a tuner to do it.
I just emailed one that is SCT certified according to their site and would i still be able to drive it without the tune? Or would it run like a turd?
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If you swap over your intake, TB and sensors, I don't think you'd necessarily need a tune (I'm not 100% on that though). I'm hoping to do the Lincoln Mark VIII 4v swap into my 00' GT at some point, and it'll definitely require a tune to run well. It'll also require harness changes and other parts (Cobra intake, new throttle cable, among other parts, I've got a list of what I need somewhere, lol). Only way it'd be a drop-in swap is if it's a 4.6l from a F150 in the same year range as you have.
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Originally Posted by heffe2001
If you swap over your intake, TB and sensors, I don't think you'd necessarily need a tune (I'm not 100% on that though). I'm hoping to do the Lincoln Mark VIII 4v swap into my 00' GT at some point, and it'll definitely require a tune to run well. It'll also require harness changes and other parts (Cobra intake, new throttle cable, among other parts, I've got a list of what I need somewhere, lol). Only way it'd be a drop-in swap is if it's a 4.6l from a F150 in the same year range as you have.
Ill have the shop do that. Just pull all my sensors off my truck and put on the mustang engine. Along with the intake and waterpump.


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