BlackThundah

"That guy" seriously? If his truck can safely pull the Damn camper who cares about whether it's a 150, 250 or 650. We have keystone cougar our selves and the max turn tech helps so much. It's saved our cab numerous times.

kjburns

From what I can find, the Cougar weighs over 9000 lbs empty. That is above our tow rating before you load anything in the trailer. Either you have determined that the engineers have made a mistake or you've chosen to treat the tow rating as a suggestion.

BlackThundah

Not really sure if you are talking to me or the op, but that's why I said if he can safely tow whats the big deal? Its to him to figure out what the weight of the actual fifth wheel is and if he can tow it safely. Our fifth wheel easily weighs over 11,500 and we tow it with a 250.

7700SCREW

The op was asking how to install a fifth wheel hitch....if he wanted your opinion on what you can and can't tow with a f150 he would have asked for it!

kjburns

So...if you see someone contemplating something that might be dangerous you sit back and watch? Gotcha.

RVers are infamous for overtaxing their equipment. The manufacturers often build RVs that are overweight before the paperwork is signed. Then, they bump into things with bad results when the brakes fail or other hardware breaks.

There are a few fifth wheels that we can tow, but very few. Even those models are overweight when loaded with gear. I wonder if the OP is familiar with the acronym GVCW? It's the gross combined weight the vehicle can handle. With our trucks, you're looking at roughly 12,000 lbs for the truck and trailer. If you don't consider this stuff, you are "that guy". You are an accident looking for a place to happen.

I don't think there's anything wrong with bringing up this point. Do you? If so, why? Forums like this aren't for attaboy cheer leading are they? If someone talks about real numbers and ratings, is there something wrong with that? It's not an opinion.

I think a forum like this should offer information and go easy on opinion. I don't really care if someone likes my tint or wheels. I do want information that matters, like repairing the odometer or door actuators. In the end, it's good to know the difference between information and opinion. If I'm considering dropping serious money on something, I want real information. If it's a bad idea, then someone should say so. If I was the OP and nobody said anything about why you might not want to do this, I'd be pissed. I would drop a bunch of money on a hitch and find out I couldn't tow what I wanted, or worse. If I wrecked and injured someone or even had the claim denied by my insurance, I'd feel this board was a waste of my time.

Can we all be adults and not get all butt hurt if someone says it might be a bad idea?

Z7What

As it was said the empty trailer is more than what the truck can safely pull. Sure who cares if he wants to beat his truck up yeah. But what I have a problem with is that if I'm in the other lane and something happens I have a problem now, because it's unsafe and endangers others people.

Wayne

khodgens

Well I guess it's time I put this to bed. Yes I know what GVCW is. I've spent the last month doing my research not only here but on several rv websites. FYI there are websites strictly for 1/2 ton rated campers and several manufacturer's have units in the 5k range. I've verified the GVCW for my truck, know the weight of the trailer, have a good idea what it will weigh once loaded and know how much my truck weighs loaded. I would stay well under the limit. I don't mind constructive criticisms but I asked a simple question about installing a hitch myself and the only response I received that remotely addressed the subject was carcrazygts2. A thanks to him. Moderator I'd appreciate it if you'd close this thread.

stainlessman

https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...oorplans/230rl

I see this thread is from 2014. But this is the fifthwheel I'm concidering buying. 6600 lbs UVW. I think the hitch weight was 1200 lbs. I'm thinking air bags and I'm good to go.
I know nothing about the fifthwheel hitches though. If you look at Etrailer there must be 50 different models/brands.
Any advise or imput is always appreciated.

Jbrew

Nice, I thought about a fiver, but went with this one last October, -

https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/2970rl

Well very similar to the 2970, mines a 2950. The 2970 came out just a few months after the 50.

Set it up and kept it going all winter to test in sub freezing weather conditions. This went to sub-zero as we've had record breaking cold spells this year lol. It took some work, -it survived the worst of it...barely lol.

Good luck with yours.

stainlessman

The UVW of your travel trailer is like 4-500 lbs more then the fifth wheel camper I posted.
The fifth wheel UVW is 6945 lbs and I'm very cautious about even towing that much. But you've towed your trailer several times with your half ton and no towing issues ? Lack of power ect ?