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4.2 to 5.4 swap

Old 04-19-2012, 08:13 PM
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I figured it would be alot more then that too. That's why when he told me 650 I got all excited and my pants got a little tighter lol
Nice lol and the PCM and harness equalles a deal on my book
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You may have a problem with the theft light if u take a PCM out a newer truck such as a 2001 it has the smart chip in the key you best net would be a PCM out of a 1997 are 98 without a chipped key. If u install a PCM from a truck with pats key the truck may not start more then likely won't and the key is not the only thing tied into that. Look for a older PCM with out a chipped key and save your self a headache
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Originally Posted by rcruz3568
You may have a problem with the theft light if u take a PCM out a newer truck such as a 2001 it has the smart chip in the key you best net would be a PCM out of a 1997 are 98 without a chipped key. If u install a PCM from a truck with pats key the truck may not start more then likely won't and the key is not the only thing tied into that. Look for a older PCM with out a chipped key and save your self a headache
His truck is an 02 so he shouldnt have a problem with the pats.
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Originally Posted by rcruz3568
You may have a problem with the theft light if u take a PCM out a newer truck such as a 2001 it has the smart chip in the key you best net would be a PCM out of a 1997 are 98 without a chipped key. If u install a PCM from a truck with pats key the truck may not start more then likely won't and the key is not the only thing tied into that. Look for a older PCM with out a chipped key and save your self a headache
Well they have a 98 expedition 5.4 too. Would that be the same swap?
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If he takes the PCM out an 01 with pats and puts it in his truck that also has oats the key code won't match what the PCM has stored and will go into theft mode. He prolly can do the swap and visit the dealer ship for a reflash but he will have to make sure the PCM he gets is compatible with his truck. This is all from my understanding when I had PCM problems with my 1999 f150
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Originally Posted by rcruz3568
If he takes the PCM out an 01 with pats and puts it in his truck that also has oats the key code won't match what the PCM has stored and will go into theft mode. He prolly can do the swap and visit the dealer ship for a reflash but he will have to make sure the PCM he gets is compatible with his truck. This is all from my understanding when I had PCM problems with my 1999 f150
Well what would be easier? The 01 f150 engine and tranny or expedition? What's involved in a reflash?
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Originally Posted by rosman44

Well they have a 98 expedition 5.4 too. Would that be the same swap?
You can pull the 2001 motor but I would personally try to get a non pats PCM to use I have had PCM problems and my truck sat in my carport for 2 weeks I looked into everything to get it fixed finally it got towed to the dealer. I bout a programer used it when I put it on my truck it wrote a 2001 f150 stock files to my 99 f150 it therefore changed my PCM completely and it went into thrift mode dealer ship saved my PCM luckily by doing a reflash but it wasn't cheap I spent close to 200 bucks not know for sure if it would fix but im happy it did
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Originally Posted by rcruz3568

You can pull the 2001 motor but I would personally try to get a non pats PCM to use I have had PCM problems and my truck sat in my carport for 2 weeks I looked into everything to get it fixed finally it got towed to the dealer. I bout a programer used it when I put it on my truck it wrote a 2001 f150 stock files to my 99 f150 it therefore changed my PCM completely and it went into thrift mode dealer ship saved my PCM luckily by doing a reflash but it wasn't cheap I spent close to 200 bucks not know for sure if it would fix but im happy it did
Well for the pats thing is it just the key that's needed? Or is there other stuff for the computer to read?
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Originally Posted by rcruz3568

You can pull the 2001 motor but I would personally try to get a non pats PCM to use I have had PCM problems and my truck sat in my carport for 2 weeks I looked into everything to get it fixed finally it got towed to the dealer. I bout a programer used it when I put it on my truck it wrote a 2001 f150 stock files to my 99 f150 it therefore changed my PCM completely and it went into thrift mode dealer ship saved my PCM luckily by doing a reflash but it wasn't cheap I spent close to 200 bucks not know for sure if it would fix but im happy it did
Theres one problem with this. The pcm with out pats will be flashed to run a non pi engine. And the 2001 engine is a pi engine.
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Correct about the pi engine but u could always get php to write u a better tune and php tuners may be able to disable pats for u on a newer PCM I'm not sure. But pats includes the gauge cluster the gem module the key and PCM from my understanding

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