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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 06:14 AM
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Have you looked at the freeze frame data when the DTCs post? You need to know the operating conditions for when the mixture is skewed, ie idle only or higher RPMS or under heavy load, operating temps, etc.

The "spray and listen" method very rarely does anything useful, the computer is usually too fast at making adjustments except in the case of very severe leaks. If your mixture is skewed at idle only, then hook up the scan tool and monitor either STFTs or the upstream O2 voltages while spraying to look for any reaction.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by white89gt
I feel you need to smoke test it then. It's got to have a leak somewhere that you can't see.

I've seen the 11th gen's leak inside the brake booster.... never witnessed a 10th gen do it yet though. I would do a smoke test at this point though. Something is hiding from you really well.
I'll see what I can do about getting that done. I appreciate all your help.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89
Have you looked at the freeze frame data when the DTCs post? You need to know the operating conditions for when the mixture is skewed, ie idle only or higher RPMS or under heavy load, operating temps, etc.

The "spray and listen" method very rarely does anything useful, the computer is usually too fast at making adjustments except in the case of very severe leaks. If your mixture is skewed at idle only, then hook up the scan tool and monitor either STFTs or the upstream O2 voltages while spraying to look for any reaction.
When it gets high enough to set the codes it's at idle. I'll try spraying and monitoring the STFT and the front 02 today.
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Helfer1123
I'll see what I can do about getting that done. I appreciate all your help.
I did a smoke test and smoke was coming out of the IAC. like the little cap looking thing on it. so should I replace the IAC?
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 09:35 PM
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Don't want to spoil the puzzle but Makuloco might help.

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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BareBonesXL
Don't want to spoil the puzzle but Makuloco might help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh3KNHj9Zp8
mine is the 2v. And my symptons don't match those.
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 10:02 PM
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Dang, that's the second time I picked the wrong number of valves.

Your freeze frame will tell you a lot. Gaskets seal better when warm. Codes can get set when the engine is cold. If they are, and you're doing your testing on a warm engine, you won't find the cause.
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BareBonesXL
Dang, that's the second time I picked the wrong number of valves.

Your freeze frame will tell you a lot. Gaskets seal better when warm. Codes can get set when the engine is cold. If they are, and you're doing your testing on a warm engine, you won't find the cause.
No MIL. just LTFT is around +15 and firm economy is awful
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 10:25 PM
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If there's no codes then the engine is running "in spec." The O2 sensors are telling the computer what to do to keep the ratios correct, as lean as possible so that all fuel is burned.

I've read that new O2 sensors respond faster than old ones and that new ones can make the engine more efficient. I don't know if it's true or a myth to sell more sensors. Here's an article. https://www.tomorrowstechnician.com/oxygen-sensors/

Good luck.
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Old Feb 4, 2020 | 10:30 PM
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Both banks positive for lean, so, -check everything connected to the throttle body and elbow.

Begin at the air filter, - MAF o-ring (make sure it has one first, and it's damage free), IAT grommet, intake hoses, IAC connection, brake booster, purge valve, PCV assembly and mini tube harness connections (use MEK to seal mini tube vac lines). Make sure the intake is seated properly at the TB and MAF tube.
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