Word on the Street: F-150 5.0L On the Way!!
07-13-2010, 08:59 AM
#22
Member
Oh, i need the truck, just not for towing. I put 700+ lbs of topsoil friday alone in her, and this weekend she should be making mulitple runs to Lowes. But again, I dont tow much.
07-13-2010, 10:15 AM
#24
Senior Member
Off topic for sure, but how much does 1 yard of soil weigh? There are two local places that sell it One goes by weight the other by yard. Want to know which is the better deal. ($25 per ton vs $31 per yard).
07-13-2010, 10:32 AM
#25
Member
Oh right, I just typed off the reply fast. It makes sense for you AND for those that don't necessarily need a truck but want one.
Off topic for sure, but how much does 1 yard of soil weigh? There are two local places that sell it One goes by weight the other by yard. Want to know which is the better deal. ($25 per ton vs $31 per yard).
Off topic for sure, but how much does 1 yard of soil weigh? There are two local places that sell it One goes by weight the other by yard. Want to know which is the better deal. ($25 per ton vs $31 per yard).
1 cu. yd = 25853 ounces
25853 ounces = .81 tons
(25853 ounces = .73 Metric Tons but I doubt he is measuring in MT)
Therefore:
1 cu yd = .81 tons
The 5.5 beds w/ the tailgate up can handle 2 cu. yds w/out any spilling over. But he'll have to dump the bucket from corner to cross corner (6' bucket).
07-13-2010, 10:40 AM
#26
This is what I have come up with:
1 cu. yd = 25853 ounces
25853 ounces = .81 tons
(25853 ounces = .73 Metric Tons but I doubt he is measuring in MT)
Therefore:
1 cu yd = .81 tons
The 5.5 beds w/ the tailgate up can handle 2 cu. yds w/out any spilling over. But he'll have to dump the bucket from corner to cross corner (6' bucket).
1 cu. yd = 25853 ounces
25853 ounces = .81 tons
(25853 ounces = .73 Metric Tons but I doubt he is measuring in MT)
Therefore:
1 cu yd = .81 tons
The 5.5 beds w/ the tailgate up can handle 2 cu. yds w/out any spilling over. But he'll have to dump the bucket from corner to cross corner (6' bucket).
A cu yd is a volume and the way it looks the ounce is also a volume. I do not yet know the answer but I think your math is flawed. I am working on the answer.
A cubic yard (CY) is a volume measurement, 27 cubic feet (CF)
A Ton is a weight measurement. There is a way to convert the two but it may be irrelevant.
Top soil being a generic term there is far too many variables to say which one is the better deal without having some of each. For example top soil can have sand in or more organic material in them. The composition of the soil will dramatically affect the weight per volume. Not to mention the moisture content, fluff, ETC. I would venture to guess that the guy selling by weight has heavier (due to sand and moisture) than the guy selling by volume. With the given information I do not feel there is a correct answer. There are some constructions standards that apply for estimating for a project.
http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/partners...onversions.pdf
page 14/15
Last edited by Thunderslide; 07-13-2010 at 10:57 AM.
07-13-2010, 10:50 AM
#27
Administrator
To add to VanoFords POV about single/twin turbocharging...
Take a look at performance vehicles that come with twins from the factory (Supra's, RX7's, 300ZX's, Stealth/3000GT's). You will notice that alot of them are using twins but only able to run a combined total of around 15psi before they are maxxed out and become a parasite to the motor at higher RPM's. You don't wanna blow a turbo. Metal chunks + motor= FAIL. Sure you have nearly off-idle boost but who needs that? The common upgrade for those aforementioned vehicles (minus the 3000GT's simply due to space issues) is to go single turbo. Boost can be had later in the rev range to allow for better drivability and a GT3582RL (GT35R), for instance- can run efficiently up to 24psi and while using a lowball 15psi- run a HELL of alot more efficiently than the stock twins and producing much more power with stock boost levels.
Bottom line, if you want the ability to stay out of the boost range to save DD abilities an retain the ability to have nearly limitless potential, go single. If you want alot of tubing, less power potential due to having to run smaller turbos so your reletively lower compression V6's and V8's can actually turn them, go twins.
Take a look at performance vehicles that come with twins from the factory (Supra's, RX7's, 300ZX's, Stealth/3000GT's). You will notice that alot of them are using twins but only able to run a combined total of around 15psi before they are maxxed out and become a parasite to the motor at higher RPM's. You don't wanna blow a turbo. Metal chunks + motor= FAIL. Sure you have nearly off-idle boost but who needs that? The common upgrade for those aforementioned vehicles (minus the 3000GT's simply due to space issues) is to go single turbo. Boost can be had later in the rev range to allow for better drivability and a GT3582RL (GT35R), for instance- can run efficiently up to 24psi and while using a lowball 15psi- run a HELL of alot more efficiently than the stock twins and producing much more power with stock boost levels.
Bottom line, if you want the ability to stay out of the boost range to save DD abilities an retain the ability to have nearly limitless potential, go single. If you want alot of tubing, less power potential due to having to run smaller turbos so your reletively lower compression V6's and V8's can actually turn them, go twins.
Last edited by Lenn; 07-13-2010 at 11:05 AM.
07-13-2010, 10:52 AM
#28
Administrator
I could be wrong.
This weight measurement of ounces though would fluctuate depending on the product used in your 1cu.yd., right?
07-13-2010, 11:00 AM
#29
not sure Lenn there is no material listed in this conversion and the numbers match.
1 cubic yard = 25 852.675 324 ounce [US, liquid]
from
http://www.onlineconversion.com/volume.htm
1 cubic yard = 25 852.675 324 ounce [US, liquid]
from
http://www.onlineconversion.com/volume.htm
07-13-2010, 11:07 AM
#30
Member
A cu yd is a volume and the way it looks the ounce is also a volume. I do not yet know the answer but I think your math is flawed. I am working on the answer.
A cubic yard (CY) is a volume measurement, 27 cubic feet (CF)
A Ton is a weight measurement. There is a way to convert the two but it may be irrelevant.
Top soil being a generic term there is far too many variables to say which one is the better deal without having some of each. For example top soil can have sand in or more organic material in them. The composition of the soil will dramatically affect the weight per volume. Not to mention the moisture content, fluff, ETC. I would venture to guess that the guy selling by weight has heavier (due to sand and moisture) than the guy selling by volume. With the given information I do not feel there is a correct answer. There are some constructions standards that apply for estimating for a project.
http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/partners...onversions.pdf
page 14/15
A cubic yard (CY) is a volume measurement, 27 cubic feet (CF)
A Ton is a weight measurement. There is a way to convert the two but it may be irrelevant.
Top soil being a generic term there is far too many variables to say which one is the better deal without having some of each. For example top soil can have sand in or more organic material in them. The composition of the soil will dramatically affect the weight per volume. Not to mention the moisture content, fluff, ETC. I would venture to guess that the guy selling by weight has heavier (due to sand and moisture) than the guy selling by volume. With the given information I do not feel there is a correct answer. There are some constructions standards that apply for estimating for a project.
http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/partners...onversions.pdf
page 14/15
Correct, a Cubic Yard is a volume measurement. Ounces is also a volume measurement.
I think he is using ounces as a weight reletive to the volume of 1 cu.yd. and then converting that to a more recognizable .81 ton measurement (kinda like saying that 1gal of water weighs 8lbs or 128oz.).
I could be wrong.
This weight measurement of ounces though would fluctuate depending on the product used in your 1cu.yd., right?
I could be wrong.
This weight measurement of ounces though would fluctuate depending on the product used in your 1cu.yd., right?
Therefore, since ounce is found in both Volume and Mass, this is the common "denominator". But if I am flawed, please show me where so I dont make the mistake again.
