Parking Lights do not work?
#31
Yes, that is the part I am talking about. Like I said, I am not 100% on that being the culprit but at this point it is still a potential fault. It is best to exhaust everything short of taking it to the dealership to have them tear the truck down before replacing it. Remember, if you do decide to replace it, try to get a quality OEM Ford part instead of a cheap eBay part if you can help it.
#32
"Why Leave it Stock?"
Yes, that is what I am referring you to. I didn't realize it was from eBay but I was trying to promote the OEM part, like you found. I used eBay as an example of where cheap knockoffs are sometimes sold but I can see in this case it won't be needed.
As I said before, make sure you have exhausted all of your avenues except for having the dealership tear up your truck looking for this, before you start replacing (costly) parts. The indicator lever may be the culprit, but it is anyone's guess at this point. Based on the symptoms you have described, I can attribute at least SOME of the faults back to this switch.
You said you had the main headlight switch replaced, right? And a new aftermarket remote start/security system installed and the old one removed?
As I said before, make sure you have exhausted all of your avenues except for having the dealership tear up your truck looking for this, before you start replacing (costly) parts. The indicator lever may be the culprit, but it is anyone's guess at this point. Based on the symptoms you have described, I can attribute at least SOME of the faults back to this switch.
You said you had the main headlight switch replaced, right? And a new aftermarket remote start/security system installed and the old one removed?
#33
Senior Member
Yes, that is the part I am talking about. Like I said, I am not 100% on that being the culprit but at this point it is still a potential fault. It is best to exhaust everything short of taking it to the dealership to have them tear the truck down before replacing it. Remember, if you do decide to replace it, try to get a quality OEM Ford part instead of a cheap eBay part if you can help it.
lol actually that's a good point, if it's cheap and it fixes it, it's definitely a lot cheaper than going to the stealership hahahaha. I did ramble on a lot that night, this is definitely a very trivial electrical issue I've never seen before either hahaha
#34
Senior Member
ok lol well honestly I am a noob noob when it comes to checking voltage with a multimeter. I have honestly no idea how to really work it. but I will give it a shot.
now that I am thinking about it the HID harness is only hooked up to one head light plug so maybe the other one that is not being used anymore could be out? I didn't check the headlight fuses hence my headlights were working. but ill def check tomorrow.
also I do have my indicators at all times and my highbeams are working.
and so your saying take jumper cables, and hook the ground wire to the ground terminal on the battery and then take the other ground end and ground it to the frame of the truck? then check to see if everything works?
thanks for the help guys.
now that I am thinking about it the HID harness is only hooked up to one head light plug so maybe the other one that is not being used anymore could be out? I didn't check the headlight fuses hence my headlights were working. but ill def check tomorrow.
also I do have my indicators at all times and my highbeams are working.
and so your saying take jumper cables, and hook the ground wire to the ground terminal on the battery and then take the other ground end and ground it to the frame of the truck? then check to see if everything works?
thanks for the help guys.
With the jumpers, yeah, I know it sounds silly... ONLY use the negative (black) jumper, don't hook up the positive. Jump the negative from the battery to the frame somewhere. It's seriously a long-shot but you never know. I'd think you'd run into other issues if the ground was that poor but takes a few mins to try haha.
I'm really wondering if someone has spliced into your wiring somewhere else... it could be at the drivers kick panel and even that panel that runs along your drivers side. Was it an alarm they added? Depending how they did it, they may have had to add diodes for the door pins and they could have done it in the floor rails (where I did it). I also had an issue with water pooling in there. I found out because it shorted my diode and set my alarm off. Pulled that floor panel off and was shocked! The panel is easy to remove (the one on the floor that runs along the doors).
#35
ok thanks for all the help guys, I am really trying to knock out all these littles things off the list before I take it tot he dealer. it just sucks I havnt had time to chck **** out for myself. I will tomorrow though, so I will check some things out before I go to the dealer.
so are you saying I should try and new indicator switch or not?
also the car has a pioneer avic d1. now I it has the pioneer backup camera install with itand lately the camera has been working and not working. that's something else that is been acting up the last few days.
The one place just took the old viper alarm, remote start off the truck. I didn't want to hook anything else up after market until I get this light issue fixed for the sake of me going to the dealership and they try blaming it on that ****. but in the future I plan on getting another one install after this light thing is fixed.
so tomorrow: ground with jumper cables, visual inspection of wires behind headlight switch, check headlight fuses, check kick panel on driver side. anything else?
so are you saying I should try and new indicator switch or not?
also the car has a pioneer avic d1. now I it has the pioneer backup camera install with itand lately the camera has been working and not working. that's something else that is been acting up the last few days.
The one place just took the old viper alarm, remote start off the truck. I didn't want to hook anything else up after market until I get this light issue fixed for the sake of me going to the dealership and they try blaming it on that ****. but in the future I plan on getting another one install after this light thing is fixed.
so tomorrow: ground with jumper cables, visual inspection of wires behind headlight switch, check headlight fuses, check kick panel on driver side. anything else?
#36
Senior Member
ok thanks for all the help guys, I am really trying to knock out all these littles things off the list before I take it tot he dealer. it just sucks I havnt had time to chck **** out for myself. I will tomorrow though, so I will check some things out before I go to the dealer.
so are you saying I should try and new indicator switch or not?
also the car has a pioneer avic d1. now I it has the pioneer backup camera install with itand lately the camera has been working and not working. that's something else that is been acting up the last few days.
The one place just took the old viper alarm, remote start off the truck. I didn't want to hook anything else up after market until I get this light issue fixed for the sake of me going to the dealership and they try blaming it on that ****. but in the future I plan on getting another one install after this light thing is fixed.
so tomorrow: ground with jumper cables, visual inspection of wires behind headlight switch, check headlight fuses, check kick panel on driver side. anything else?
so are you saying I should try and new indicator switch or not?
also the car has a pioneer avic d1. now I it has the pioneer backup camera install with itand lately the camera has been working and not working. that's something else that is been acting up the last few days.
The one place just took the old viper alarm, remote start off the truck. I didn't want to hook anything else up after market until I get this light issue fixed for the sake of me going to the dealership and they try blaming it on that ****. but in the future I plan on getting another one install after this light thing is fixed.
so tomorrow: ground with jumper cables, visual inspection of wires behind headlight switch, check headlight fuses, check kick panel on driver side. anything else?
#37
finally! got it fixed. long story short. I ended up finding an oem wire had been spliced then reconnected, but it was corroded and was not making a solid connection which was the reason the lights where off. It was a grey wire located underneath the side foot panel. very weird y someone would cut there.
#38
"Why Leave it Stock?"
finally! got it fixed. long story short. I ended up finding an oem wire had been spliced then reconnected, but it was corroded and was not making a solid connection which was the reason the lights where off. It was a grey wire located underneath the side foot panel. very weird y someone would cut there.
#39
If you are talking about the drivers side of the truck, front seat, under the door jamb cover, I noticed this too. I was surprised one day when I took them off to clean them that there was so many wires in that channel, and that there were half a dozen or so Y-splices that appeared to be a factory job. Glad you got it figured out! I'm going to look into a way to protect this wiring from corrosion better.
#40
Alright, this is what I think I know. You've got a hazard light relay and a parking lamp relay. Word I get is they are located below the radio and seems to me pulling the bezel off from the upper face and taking out the climate control center is the easiest access.
Keep in mind this info is for a 2002 F250 so you may have to keep digging, but that's the first place I'm looking as I have relatively the same problem, but my parking lights and dash lights just flat don't work.
Now, if the two relays are indeed placed together in this configuration and you find them, hit the hazard lights to eliminate their relay as the offending unit. Hit the parking lamps and if the relay on the other side does Not click momentarily, then you've probably found your solution. I know I'm headed for my tools as we speak....
Keep in mind this info is for a 2002 F250 so you may have to keep digging, but that's the first place I'm looking as I have relatively the same problem, but my parking lights and dash lights just flat don't work.
Now, if the two relays are indeed placed together in this configuration and you find them, hit the hazard lights to eliminate their relay as the offending unit. Hit the parking lamps and if the relay on the other side does Not click momentarily, then you've probably found your solution. I know I'm headed for my tools as we speak....