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Preston1995 03-31-2013 12:55 AM

Nitto Trails or Toyo MT
 
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Let me fill you in; I want the best looking tire, I also want the most capable in snow, mud, and highway. I drive 50 miles a day at 60 mph. I hear both last to 50,000 miles as long as you rotate them every 3,000 miles.I want the one with the best MPG for all highway. I will put rancho quick lift 2.5 and RS9000xl at the same time. ( tire size 305-55-20- Nitto or 33x12.5- Toyo)
Thanks
This is my truck


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This is the wheel set up 20x10 fuel hostage


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cullinan88 03-31-2013 01:12 AM

I was in ur shoes a week ago so I went with toyo the cheaper one which still wasn't cheap...

80575 03-31-2013 01:13 AM

Ever thought about getting the Toyo Open Country AT2?

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:15 AM

Thanks guys, no cant do AT tires, dead set on the two.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by cullinan88 (Post 2570398)
I was in ur shoes a week ago so I went with toyo the cheaper one which still wasn't cheap...

How do they ride, what is your mpg?

cullinan88 03-31-2013 01:21 AM

They ride real well I haven't tested them offroad yet. But highway couldn't ask for a better ride from a mt!

80575 03-31-2013 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570405)
Thanks guys, no cant do AT tires, dead set on the two.

Alright. I've heard mixed things about the Toyo's, but thats what I settled with as well. I think they look bad*** :thumbup:

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:26 AM

Is your mpg bad as in under 12.5?

cullinan88 03-31-2013 01:29 AM

My mpg has went up to 13 from 11-12 I had 35in coop stt's now I have these 33/12.50r20

80575 03-31-2013 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570430)
Is your mpg bad as in under 12.5?

I don't have mine on yet because i'm waiting on wheels. I assume mine will be bad due to the weight though.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:33 AM

Well good I wish I could lift however I have 3.55 and I don't think that would work. I would do a lift but idk if that would work

buster096 03-31-2013 01:39 AM

this is choice basically between looks and preferance. they are both awsome tires and i have seen both do things that many would call imposible. i personally like the toyos better out of the two. but i wouldnt ever trade my bfg's for either!

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:43 AM

Km2? ^

Barnabas 03-31-2013 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570430)
Is your mpg bad as in under 12.5?

Going up in size + going to a MT is going to drop your mileage for sure...


Originally Posted by cullinan88 (Post 2570437)
My mpg has went up to 13 from 11-12 I had 35in coop stt's now I have these 33/12.50r20

Did you have your speedo corrected for tire size? besides the weight/mass of a larger tire you will also read slower so the MPG's are not as accurate

AT vs MT the MT will almost always have worse MPG

Allot of AT tires are better in Snow then MT's. Snow is a completely different animal then mud.

80575 03-31-2013 01:48 AM

I'm excited to see how my mpg's will look with some 20x12 wheels.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by Barnabas (Post 2570462)

Going up in size + going to a MT is going to drop your mileage for sure...

Did you have your speedo corrected for tire size? besides the weight/mass of a larger tire you will also read slower so the MPG's are not as accurate

AT vs MT the MT will almost always have worse MPG

Allot of AT tires are better in Snow then MT's. Snow is a completely different animal then mud.

Thanks!
Yes I will get the speedo fixed with a edge tuner, my MPGs suck like 10 as it sits I don't drive it ( have a car for the moment to drive) I will be driving it as stated next month. I need either plugs or coils BAD! So basically anything above ten is great! Which one is Best in the snow I know they aren't great.
Thanks again

I just don't know 03-31-2013 01:52 AM

I have nitto trails and I love them and instead to replace with the same tire. They ride super smooth in town and hoghway. But when off road dig nicely and catch traction quick mine are even at 20%. And they are quiet on the highway.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2570476)
I have nitto trails and I love them and instead to replace with the same tire. They ride super smooth in town and hoghway. But when off road dig nicely and catch traction quick mine are even at 20%. And they are quiet on the highway.

Thanks for the info
What is your MPG? Did you get good wear, how many miles? Do they chip your paint I don't want flares however I love ( as I am sure you do) my silky black paint!

Preston1995 03-31-2013 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by Fuugz (Post 2570469)
I'm excited to see how my mpg's will look with some 20x12 wheels.

Me two as you will get them before me most likely!

Barnabas 03-31-2013 01:59 AM

My personal favorite out of every tire i have had are hankook dyna pro AT's

Never drove the MT's of them but from people I know / online they are just as good. The AT's in the snow were miles ahead of my TSL's

To the guy who said the Nitto trails are quiet... what are you comparing them too? Granted all my experience with them were on diesel trucks... but they certainly not quiet. Although I have had louder tires then them.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by Barnabas (Post 2570487)
My personal favorite out of every tire i have had are hankook dyna pro AT's

Never drove the MT's of them but from people I know / online they are just as good. The AT's in the snow were miles ahead of my TSL's

To the guy who said the Nitto trails are quiet... what are you comparing them too? Granted all my experience with them were on diesel trucks... but they certainly not quiet. Although I have had louder tires then them.

I will look them up thanks!

80575 03-31-2013 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570483)
Me two as you will get them before me most likely!

I've had my wheels paid for since February and I'm still waiting....

Nothin' Fancy 03-31-2013 02:11 AM

Ill never buy another nitto tire. My set of mad graps lasted around 25k miles and that was with rotating them regularly. I didn't have my trail graps for 6 months before I had one blow a belt or some kind of internal damage and form a giant lump in it. I actually found the tire was out of round when I rotated them and the bad tire got on the front. Drove it no more than 10 miles and it destroyed a tire rod end. Got it alleged. Still shaking horribly, swapped the tires back and it fixed it. Called nitto they told me to take it to a dealer, took it to two and the both said I would have to buy a new tire while the bad one is shipped off

buster096 03-31-2013 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570458)
Km2? ^

yes sir :thumbsup:

Preston1995 03-31-2013 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by Nothin' Fancy (Post 2570506)
Ill never buy another nitto tire. My set of mad graps lasted around 25k miles and that was with rotating them regularly. I didn't have my trail graps for 6 months before I had one blow a belt or some kind of internal damage and form a giant lump in it. I actually found the tire was out of round when I rotated them and the bad tire got on the front. Drove it no more than 10 miles and it destroyed a tire rod end. Got it alleged. Still shaking horribly, swapped the tires back and it fixed it. Called nitto they told me to take it to a dealer, took it to two and the both said I would have to buy a new tire while the bad one is shipped off

Bad set I guess dang!

Barnabas 03-31-2013 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570535)
Bad set I guess dang!

The low mileage out of Nitto's is very common. Google it. Biggest complaint about the tire is short life.

buster096 03-31-2013 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by Barnabas (Post 2570540)
The low mileage out of Nitto's is very common. Google it. Biggest complaint about the tire is short life.

ehh it can be expected with almost all mud tires. if its an aggressive tread its gunna wear fast. sadly thats just kinda how it is.

Barnabas 03-31-2013 03:13 AM

I pulled 45k out of TSL's on my diesel even towing heavy with them.

Personally it depends on what the vehicle is doing for what tires I pick. the tires on my car would be lucky to see 7k ;)

Barnabas 03-31-2013 03:15 AM

Michelin LX2 have a 70,000 mile warranty if all you want is miles ;) talk about the least aggressive looking tire you can find though :D

they do do every bit of that though.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 09:51 AM

Thanks!

jetchaser 03-31-2013 09:51 AM

I have some Nitto Trails and love them. Sure there is a little road noise but nothing that I expected. I don't even complain about it because it's so minimal. And the looks of the tires are so worth all the compliments that I get. And yes, your mileage will drop because of the big ol heavy tire that your putting on. I have an Evo, and it makes all the difference in the world. Everywhere I go, strangers ask about my rim/tire combo. I did a ton of research and read that people were not getting a lot of miles out of the MT's, so ended up getting the Trails. We had a couple of descent snow falls this year and this tire was freakin awesome in it. This pic is of a smaller snow fall, but we did just get 15" of snow the other day, it was awesome performer in the snow. I haven't hit the mud trails yet, but I feel confident that these tires will work great!!

http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps99d98476.jpg

I just don't know 03-31-2013 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570480)

Thanks for the info
What is your MPG? Did you get good wear, how many miles? Do they chip your paint I don't want flares however I love ( as I am sure you do) my silky black paint!

I have 373 gears and do a lot of city driving or in traffic but according to my bully dog and truck both say about 14 combined. Not bad for how much I'm in the city plus I'm not the nicest to if. The image idk for sure bought the truck with them on it but I've had it for almost 10 k miles now and they don't look like they have really worn at all. As far as chipping I have notices any at all. And I love to do burn outs and doughnuts in the dirt and gravel. It's exactly what buster said the more aggressive the tread the faster they will wear out. These are a pretty good combination or looks performance and actual drivability IMO. I highly recommend them and according to the tire they are made in America so that's cool to me.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by jetchaser (Post 2570798)
I have some Nitto Trails and love them. Sure there is a little road noise but nothing that I expected. I don't even complain about it because it's so minimal. And the looks of the tires are so worth all the compliments that I get. And yes, your mileage will drop because of the big ol heavy tire that your putting on. I have an Evo, and it makes all the difference in the world. Everywhere I go, strangers ask about my rim/tire combo. I did a ton of research and read that people were not getting a lot of miles out of the MT's, so ended up getting the Trails. We had a couple of descent snow falls this year and this tire was freakin awesome in it. This pic is of a smaller snow fall, but we did just get 15" of snow the other day, it was awesome performer in the snow. I haven't hit the mud trails yet, but I feel confident that these tires will work great!!

Thanks that helps a ton!

I just don't know 03-31-2013 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by jetchaser (Post 2570798)
I have some Nitto Trails and love them. Sure there is a little road noise but nothing that I expected. I don't even complain about it because it's so minimal. And the looks of the tires are so worth all the compliments that I get. And yes, your mileage will drop because of the big ol heavy tire that your putting on. I have an Evo, and it makes all the difference in the world. Everywhere I go, strangers ask about my rim/tire combo. I did a ton of research and read that people were not getting a lot of miles out of the MT's, so ended up getting the Trails. We had a couple of descent snow falls this year and this tire was freakin awesome in it. This pic is of a smaller snow fall, but we did just get 15" of snow the other day, it was awesome performer in the snow. I haven't hit the mud trails yet, but I feel confident that these tires will work great!!

Ya every here I go between my bumper and tire wheel combo people constantly compliment and look at my truck. They other day I was walking back to my truck and some couple the goes is that your? It's a really beautiful truck, I really like how it's set up. Always getting attention from people.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2570808)

I have 373 gears and do a lot of city driving or in traffic but according to my bully dog and truck both say about 14 combined. Not bad for how much I'm in the city plus I'm not the nicest to if. The image idk for sure bought the truck with them on it but I've had it for almost 10 k miles now and they don't look like they have really worn at all. As far as chipping I have notices any at all. And I love to do burn outs and doughnuts in the dirt and gravel. It's exactly what buster said the more aggressive the tread the faster they will wear out. These are a pretty good combination or looks performance and actual drivability IMO. I highly recommend them and according to the tire they are made in America so that's cool to me.

Nice I have 3.55 so I should get better MPGs
Thanks for the help

Preston1995 03-31-2013 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2570817)

Ya every here I go between my bumper and tire wheel combo people constantly compliment and look at my truck. They other day I was walking back to my truck and some couple the goes is that your? It's a really beautiful truck, I really like how it's set up. Always getting attention from people.

From what I see your truck has a great stance and I love your paint, however if you go black you never go back!
Hahaha

Preston1995 03-31-2013 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570828)

From what I see your truck has a great stance and I love your paint, however if you go black you never go back!
Hahaha

That was for the guy with the gray paint

I just don't know 03-31-2013 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570829)

That was for the guy with the gray paint

Haha ya I love black paint. Ya it sucks to take care of but whatever looks beauty is pain. Plus I have all black leather interior so it's awesome. I I love how much truck sits. One day it will get a lift but I have one other big project before anything else

Preston1995 03-31-2013 11:13 AM

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Nice! Big project ?

I try to keep it nice

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08-Lobo 03-31-2013 11:20 AM

If you have decided yet , I'm running 33"x12.5" Toyo open country mt , I get 18mpg on the highway , my tires are at 6/32nd and still very minimal road noise and I find its good in snow mud and hwy but not good on ice, but that's expected with a mt tire

I just don't know 03-31-2013 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2570973)
Nice! Big project ?

I try to keep it nice

Ya in strapping twins to my truck. I'm saving for them but they might get sidelined. I'm gonna do breaks and stereo around Xmas time then next year 4:56 gears to prepare for 35" tires. And then if all works well ill buy the twins around late next year or soon after that. After that the list is long but that stuff is short term. My hope thought is I still have a couple years left in my tires. I haven't hit the wear bars yet so that's a good thing.
Plus I'm gonna do a body swap to the newer style.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 03:04 PM

Thanks guys could I run a 35 with 3.55 gears

I just don't know 03-31-2013 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2571539)
Thanks guys could I run a 35 with 3.55 gears

You can. But I wouldn't if it was my truck. If you do just expect bad gas mileage and really low power.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 04:13 PM

Thanks

buster096 03-31-2013 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2571404)
Ya in strapping twins to my truck. I'm saving for them but they might get sidelined. I'm gonna do breaks and stereo around Xmas time then next year 4:56 gears to prepare for 35" tires. And then if all works well ill buy the twins around late next year or soon after that. After that the list is long but that stuff is short term. My hope thought is I still have a couple years left in my tires. I haven't hit the wear bars yet so that's a good thing.
Plus I'm gonna do a body swap to the newer style.

Man a body swap!!! Haha I was thinking about it but then you see a lot less built 04-08 f150s so I'm just keeping my body and putting the money in long travel.

I just don't know 03-31-2013 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by buster096 (Post 2571874)

Man a body swap!!! Haha I was thinking about it but then you see a lot less built 04-08 f150s so I'm just keeping my body and putting the money in long travel.

I want long travel so Ill do that eventually probably instead of the lift. I just don't like the prerunner look that much anymore. Maybe it's because I live in so cal and see fake ones constantly. So I want a stock look. But beast performance.

buster096 03-31-2013 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2571906)
I want long travel so Ill do that eventually probably instead of the lift. I just don't like the prerunner look that much anymore. Maybe it's because I live in so cal and see fake ones constantly. So I want a stock look. But beast performance.

There's really no way to get around the prerunner look with long travel. Fiberglass fenders are a must. I'm in the same boat tho, there are a lot of posers around here. I'm trying to find a way to make a sleeper prerunner but with wide fenders its turning out almost impossible.

I just don't know 03-31-2013 05:04 PM

Thought about tubbing the wheel wells. It works for low riders when they drag frame. I'm gonna go with fiber works I think because if I do pre runner I want to one piece front end. The biggest tire ill run is a 35 I know most run 37 though. My other problem is I love my fat tires and am keeping them so I have to figure that one out.

buster096 03-31-2013 05:09 PM

Yeah I've seen there one pieces. Not really my style so I'm having glassworks unlimited hook me up because they're only 30min away from my house. I'm gunna run 37's and crank the coils up so that ill have no contact issues I hope. What do you mean by fat tires.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 05:56 PM

Do you guys know we're I can get a clear bra for the quarter panels or behind the wheels to prevent chips?

I just don't know 03-31-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2572115)
Do you guys know we're I can get a clear bra for the quarter panels or behind the wheels to prevent chips?

Nope mine had plastic pieces there.

I just don't know 03-31-2013 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by buster096 (Post 2572005)
Yeah I've seen there one pieces. Not really my style so I'm having glassworks unlimited hook me up because they're only 30min away from my house. I'm gunna run 37's and crank the coils up so that ill have no contact issues I hope. What do you mean by fat tires.

I have a 12.5 in wide tire. Most I see look thinner more like a 9in. Ya and as far as the body I'm not completely sold on who I want. I have no opinion on any one yet.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 06:07 PM

So they make like a spray on our what? I need them! Can you share a picture of the plastic pieces you have?

buster096 03-31-2013 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2572135)
I have a 12.5 in wide tire. Most I see look thinner more like a 9in. Ya and as far as the body I'm not completely sold on who I want. I have no opinion on any one yet.

Oh yeah I got you. I've been talking to my buddy who has a long travel taco and he said that 12.5 wide tires will be okay but there will most likely be contact issues on the fenders. I'm gunna get 10.5 wide tires just to be safe.

I just don't know 03-31-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2572141)
So they make like a spray on our what? I need them! Can you share a picture of the plastic pieces you have?



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I think this is what you talking about. This is what I have. Most the 150s I see have them. Maybe I miss understood you.

I just don't know 03-31-2013 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by buster096 (Post 2572190)

Oh yeah I got you. I've been talking to my buddy who has a long travel taco and he said that 12.5 wide tires will be okay but there will most likely be contact issues on the fenders. I'm gunna get 10.5 wide tires just to be safe.

Cool, ya if its too bad ill shrink the tire but if I don't have to I'm not going to. As long as it doesn't rip my fender off haha. That's another reason though I'm more leaning to the muiti piece front end. I can replace pieces not the whole thing.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by I just don't know (Post 2572297)

I think this is what you talking about. This is what I have. Most the 150s I see have them. Maybe I miss understood you.

Yea I want one for this area


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Thanks

I just don't know 03-31-2013 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2572306)

Yea I want one for this area

Thanks

So you want it up on the body panel? But that plastic piece sits on the button of where you circled. With what I have not i don't have any problems with chipping. In fact those areas don't have any chips on them, dirty but no chips. But that's me. If all else fails I bet a vinyl shop would custom cut you some pieces to put where ever you want. Most rocks unless thrown from something else won't get past that piece unless you have a tire that sticks way out.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 08:02 PM

Yes I want to keep that area from getting chipped. I think that is a good idea, do you think window tent would work lol I wish there was a vinyl shop in tn

I just don't know 03-31-2013 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Preston1995 (Post 2572484)
Yes I want to keep that area from getting chipped. I think that is a good idea, do you think window tent would work lol I wish there was a vinyl shop in tn

Might but Idk how well it would hold up. Try it. Order a roll of vinyl I'm sure there is a website to order a small amount.

Preston1995 03-31-2013 08:29 PM

Will do!

Preston1995 04-10-2013 08:11 PM

Reopened how many miles should I get out of each tire?

CPT150 04-10-2013 08:18 PM

are you talking about the Toyo? Mine are supposed to last 48k, and the AT2 was supposed to last 33% longer but Toyo said in a press conference it was either 55k or 65k

realist alive 04-10-2013 11:12 PM

I am running 37x14x20 TOYO AT, couldn't ask for a better tire. When people are saying a 12.5 inch tire is a wide tire it is not that wide. I ran a 33x12.5 on my old Tacoma, a 14in wide tire is a wide tire.

80575 04-10-2013 11:31 PM

Just got my Toyo M/T and I love them so far. Nice little him while driving.

Preston1995 04-11-2013 01:46 PM

Nitto trail??


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