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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Good job beerandnuts for fightin' for it! If someone from a Chevy/Dodge forum would have seen this thread, they would have died laughing, because according to Beerandnuts' truck, Ford sucks... A flippin' mud puddle... how sorry is that????


Exactly what I was thinking RaiderH8r89 as I read this thread. Reminded me of the dodge neons when they first came out and had to be recalled as they would die in the rain.

I would hope the FX4 could and should take alot more water than that. Once I accidently did hit a 6" or more and 30ft long flooded paved road covered with muddy water at 40 mph (it was 4:30am and dark) on my way to work covered the whole windshield with mud but the truck kept running for another 90,000 when I traded it in for my now F150 FX4. Oh by the way that previous truck was a Nissan Frontier. I have always loved Ford and I would call lemon. But I guess all is resolved so I will have to jump back some pages to see how it ended.

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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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Wow, I just read all 14 pages of this thread and realized that it's ten minutes I'm not getting back.

This whole thing is shameful. A guy is pissed off at his service department because they won't cover a repair on something that was damaged while doing something that any truck should be able to do. He comes on here to vent a little and ask for advice, similar stories, etc and gets absolutely shredded for it.

Atom, I think I understand how you got to over 1000 posts. If you were as helpful as you are spiteful and nagging you might be a moderator. I've been on this forum for less than a year and the decline in both quality of posts and quality of responses has gone steadily downward, but this thread is enough to make me want to sell my SCrew so that I can join a Silverado thread instead.

I've driven many roads like what Beerandnuts describes--publicly owned and county-maintained roads, in Washington State, where it's obviously wet. What he's describing fits a large proportion of the farm roads and construction sites where these trucks are ostensibly designed to operate. The way he describes himself driving is consistent with what a reasonable person would drive on such a road. Hell, I've opened up my hood after driving on roads like that and have had water on my intake, and it never killed my truck. Never, among the many times traveling the gravel roads, nor any off-road drive. If what he described would have happened to me, I would fight to the last man to make Ford pay for it. Not because I'm a whiny baby, but because I paid tens of thousands of dollars for a truck that is supposed to take anything I throw at it. Congratulations for forcing Ford to stand by their product. This could have been a situation that drove off a repeat customer, and by not having to bring their own lawyers to bear to fight a lawsuit, it's a sound business decision for them.
Old Jul 19, 2009 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by princejo

Atom, I think I understand how you got to over 1000 posts. If you were as helpful as you are spiteful and nagging you might be a moderator. I've been on this forum for less than a year and the decline in both quality of posts and quality of responses has gone steadily downward, but this thread is enough to make me want to sell my SCrew so that I can join a Silverado thread instead.

listen champ, i have helped ALOT of guys on here, so take your crap elsewhere...i am entitled to my opinion just like you are.....another bitter old man...

Originally Posted by princejo
because I paid tens of thousands of dollars for a truck that is supposed to take anything I throw at it.
good theory...

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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by princejo
Wow, I just read all 14 pages of this thread and realized that it's ten minutes I'm not getting back.

This whole thing is shameful. A guy is pissed off at his service department because they won't cover a repair on something that was damaged while doing something that any truck should be able to do. He comes on here to vent a little and ask for advice, similar stories, etc and gets absolutely shredded for it.

Atom, I think I understand how you got to over 1000 posts. If you were as helpful as you are spiteful and nagging you might be a moderator. I've been on this forum for less than a year and the decline in both quality of posts and quality of responses has gone steadily downward, but this thread is enough to make me want to sell my SCrew so that I can join a Silverado thread instead.

I've driven many roads like what Beerandnuts describes--publicly owned and county-maintained roads, in Washington State, where it's obviously wet. What he's describing fits a large proportion of the farm roads and construction sites where these trucks are ostensibly designed to operate. The way he describes himself driving is consistent with what a reasonable person would drive on such a road. Hell, I've opened up my hood after driving on roads like that and have had water on my intake, and it never killed my truck. Never, among the many times traveling the gravel roads, nor any off-road drive. If what he described would have happened to me, I would fight to the last man to make Ford pay for it. Not because I'm a whiny baby, but because I paid tens of thousands of dollars for a truck that is supposed to take anything I throw at it. Congratulations for forcing Ford to stand by their product. This could have been a situation that drove off a repeat customer, and by not having to bring their own lawyers to bear to fight a lawsuit, it's a sound business decision for them.
I think the issue behind it all is when people do something voluntarily and it damages their vehicle, they shouldn't expect someone else to pay for it. Given the fact that Ford paid for something he did will only make such a service more expensive for other people, THAT is the issue-at least in my book. Plus, like someone else posted, it is how the people in this country cannot take blame for their actions and will expend more energy and money to make others responsible than it would take to just fix it themselves. These trucks are designed to take a lot of crap, but when they find standing water on top of the engine and problems arise from it-a line has to be drawn somewhere. I really doubt Ford, who has lawyers on the payroll 24/7, got scared of going to court and backed down. If they chose to they could have tied this up for a long time and left dude without a truck for months. This is straight out of the warranty booklet:

WHAT IS NOT COVERED?
Ford Motor Company may deny you warranty coverage if your vehicle or a
part has failed because of abuse, neglect, improper maintenance, unapproved
modifications, or any items included in What Is Not Covered?, pages 10-12.

Abuse is a very broad term that could have easily been applied to this situation, he's lucky they fixed it. But none of this matters as they fixed it, and will no doubt pass their loss on to us in some other way.
Old Jul 19, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by princejo
Wow, I just read all 14 pages of this thread and realized that it's ten minutes I'm not getting back.

This whole thing is shameful. A guy is pissed off at his service department because they won't cover a repair on something that was damaged while doing something that any truck should be able to do. He comes on here to vent a little and ask for advice, similar stories, etc and gets absolutely shredded for it.

Atom, I think I understand how you got to over 1000 posts. If you were as helpful as you are spiteful and nagging you might be a moderator. I've been on this forum for less than a year and the decline in both quality of posts and quality of responses has gone steadily downward, but this thread is enough to make me want to sell my SCrew so that I can join a Silverado thread instead.

I've driven many roads like what Beerandnuts describes--publicly owned and county-maintained roads, in Washington State, where it's obviously wet. What he's describing fits a large proportion of the farm roads and construction sites where these trucks are ostensibly designed to operate. The way he describes himself driving is consistent with what a reasonable person would drive on such a road. Hell, I've opened up my hood after driving on roads like that and have had water on my intake, and it never killed my truck. Never, among the many times traveling the gravel roads, nor any off-road drive. If what he described would have happened to me, I would fight to the last man to make Ford pay for it. Not because I'm a whiny baby, but because I paid tens of thousands of dollars for a truck that is supposed to take anything I throw at it. Congratulations for forcing Ford to stand by their product. This could have been a situation that drove off a repeat customer, and by not having to bring their own lawyers to bear to fight a lawsuit, it's a sound business decision for them.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r89
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Seeing where you are from,I see why you agree. Probably the typical liberal,blame everyone but me type person.
Old Jul 19, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by motard1
Seeing where you are from,I see why you agree. Probably the typical liberal,blame everyone but me type person.
I actually have a comment on what you said about raider girl.She has helped me out before,so i will help her out,but i'm sure she will also add to it also.

Just cause she lives their,you think she isa liberal,ehhh wrong try again.You think she is the "blame everyone but me type of person"ehh wrong try again.she actually isa woman who wants ppl to take their own blame in the world today(unlike the liberals they never do)and no i'm not a liberal either....

Now i take no stance on this thread besides how the hell can i get my ford thats not even a fx4 swallowed up to my windshield with water(floodes here often and very very deep)and my truck still runs like a champ,and not once did i only go thru the flooded dipped street,i went thru it more than 10 times(dont belive me,ask the other ppl i were with)and not once did my truck die and stil hasnt.But i also belive if you play,you gotta pay,lol..Now may i have gotton lucky,who knows,lol.ok thats all i had,i'm sure your going to call me a liberal now right,lol
Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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You played son. Had you had to pay,you would be singing a different song. I too have had many vehicles in alot of water and mud. I took a risk and got lucky. Wen you break stuff,you pay. My dad always used one particular phrase. It pertains to all aspects of life. "You can't be a ******* your whole life,put your hands on something" It is relevant to everything. Basically,whenyou f stuff up,fix it. Don't blame others. Personal accountablilty is everything.
Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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Let us know how everything has worked out and if youve gotten anywhere beerandnuts, hopefully you got more help with ford then you did with this thread, but then again from what ive heard about fords service that might be a stretch of the imagination. I hope you only read and cared about the helpful posts on this thread. Good luck.



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