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Old 05-01-2017, 08:14 AM
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Today my 5.4 acted differently. The truck was sitting for a day and when I got about 5 mins down the road when I slowed down at a light, the truck started vibrating and when my foot was steady on the gas, you could hear the motor surging up and down. Then I came to a stop and the tach was moving up and down. When I went to go take off, the truck didn't want to take the gas and the acceleration was uneven. Defiantly didn't accelerate like it should. It eventually cleared up and the rough idle was still there but it wasn't nearly as bad as it was. Check engine light did NOT come on. I've always had a rough idle and the timing was all replaced except for the vct solenoids. Maybe a vct solenoid is sticking?? Any ideas?
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Today my 5.4 acted differently. The truck was sitting for a day and when I got about 5 mins down the road when I slowed down at a light, the truck started vibrating and when my foot was steady on the gas, you could hear the motor surging up and down. Then I came to a stop and the tach was moving up and down. When I went to go take off, the truck didn't want to take the gas and the acceleration was uneven. Defiantly didn't accelerate like it should. It eventually cleared up and the rough idle was still there but it wasn't nearly as bad as it was. Check engine light did NOT come on. I've always had a rough idle and the timing was all replaced except for the vct solenoids. Maybe a vct solenoid is sticking?? Any ideas?
Did you at least plug in a scan tool to check for any pending codes?
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Last tune up? Ever checked out the FPDM?
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Did not check the codes because I'm at school and happened before then. Also did not check out the FPDM. Cleaned MAF and throttle body at 94k. Plugs were done at 93k. Also swapped out cylinder 4 coil because it had a mis when I first bought the truck. This hesitation and fluctuating rpms happens rarely, meaning last time it happened was about 2 months ago. The rough idle happens all the time and is worse when warm and has been there before the timing rebuild and also after. I did not torque the plugs down but I'm not sure if that will cause a constant rough idle.
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A loose plug could cause a misfire which would cause a rough idle. Regardless get the plugs torqued properly so they don't come lose.
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It also has a ticking noise that sounds like it's coming from the front of the motor but I also found a exhaust leak on the pass side exhaust pipe. There is about a 3cm hole from rust. The ticking sounds louder when it's warm. I'll check the plugs also. Anything else I could check?
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Should I just go ahead and replace the vct solenoids? They are the only thing I didn't replace since the timing job. Just replaced phasers tensionors guides and chain and sprockets etc. I noticed that there it's oil in the vct solenoid connector. If all the other timing components where bad, is it safe to assume that the solenoids where worn from low oil pressure as well? I have a Mellings M360 oil pump in there now which gives more oil pressure so maybe that's why they aren't acting up that often?
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That is going to be a decision you have to make. What year is your truck? What brand of phasers were used? What brand of plugs were used? Did you torque them as stated? Did you plug in a scan tool and look for pending codes? What brand of coil was used on #4? How did you determine you had that misfire on #4? Have you checked for misfires?
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I'd do some coil pack swapping to start to make sure you don't have a bad one or a bad connection. But I would also check fuel issues, throw in a new fuel filter, and definitely check the Fuel Delivery Module! Mine started surging really badly one day, so parked it, when I got back to it later, wouldn't even start. Found the FDM to be so corroded and rotten the circuit board was shorting out. New one in and it runs like a top.
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Truck is a 05, all motorcraft timing components, motorcraft plugs, motorcraft coil. Has a brand new motorcraft fuel filter as well.

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