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The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound

 
Old 02-14-2019, 07:18 AM
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I really appreciate the info Nathan. My mechanic friend me to get the truck to him. He is going to do a flush, and put synthetic in. When I had the oil changed last week I forgot to let the guy that did it know that I had been using the semi synthetic. They put in regular oil, and my mechanic believes that's the issue at this time. I'll probably look at trading it for a newer truck now. Was going to do it in the spring, but I think now is the time. Other than this issue, the truck has been great for the 3 years I've had it.
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Yeah, maybe "easy" was not the right word but I am not sure what really fits. It took me about 70 hours to do as I was being super careful and also scared of doing this job. It took me about 6 hours just to take off my power steering pump because a mechanic before me WAY over tightened 1 bolt. I broke 3 sockets on it, just trying to get it off and stripped it a bit. It is also the hardest bolt to get to with no room to work with and in a stupid hard position. The only extra part that I did besides the timing chain, tensioners, guides and crank shaft gear was the high flow oil pump. I figured I should put in the better pump while it was all open. Putting it all back together, I triple and quadruple checked everything. Once it was back together, I started worrying that I messed something up and was concerned to start the truck. If it wasn't for this forum and the FTM channel... well, you can imagine....
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HOW MUCH WOULD ALL THIS COST IF I BROUGHT IT TO A SHOP??? HONESTLY

QUOTE=s_vares;1490071]Now lets put it back together!!! This guide is for use with new parts (chain, tesioner and guides. Some steps changed if reusing parts... but DONT DO THAT, we are trying to fix your engine)

Install the camshaft variable timing sprocket assembly and loosely install a new bolt and washer.
CAUTION: Only use hand tools to install the camshaft phaser sprocket assembly or damage may occur to the camshaft or camshaft phaser unit.
CAUTION: Damage to the camshaft phaser sprocket assembly will occur if mishandled or used as a lifting or leveraging device.

Attachment 504380
  • Stage 1: Tighten to 40 Nm (30 ft. lbs.).
  • Stage 2: Tighten an additional 90 degrees.
Repeat the previous steps for the LH camshaft phaser sprocket.

Attachment 504381

Install guides and torque.
Install the crankshaft sprocket, making sure the flange faces forward.

Attachment 504382
Position the lower end of the LH (inner) timing chain on the crankshaft sprocket, aligning the timing mark on the outer flange of the crankshaft sprocket with the single copper (marked) link on the chain.

NOTE: Make sure the upper half of the timing chain is below the tensioner arm dowel.

Attachment 504383

Position the timing chain on the camshaft sprocket with the camshaft sprocket timing mark positioned between the two copper (marked) chain links.


NOTE: The LH timing chain tensioner arm has a bump near the dowel hole for identification.


Attachment 504384
Position the LH timing chain tensioner arm on the dowel pin and install the LH timing chain tensioner.

Remove the retaining clip from the LH timing chain tensioner.

Attachment 504385

Position the lower end of the RH (outer) timing chain on the crankshaft sprocket, aligning the timing mark on the sprocket with the single copper (marked) chain link.

NOTE: The lower half of the timing chain must be positioned above the tensioner arm dowel.

Attachment 504386
Position the RH timing chain on the camshaft sprocket. Make sure the camshaft sprocket timing mark is positioned between the two copper (marked) chain links.

Attachment 504387


Note: The camshaft phaser and sprocket will be stamped with one of the illustrated timing marks for the RH camshaft.

Position the RH timing chain tensioner arm on the dowel pin and install the RH timing chain tensioner.

Remove the retaining clip from the RH timing chain tensioner.
NOTE: Both camshaft phaser sprockets are identical, refer to the R timing mark to identify the RH camshaft phaser sprocket and the L timing mark to identify the LH camshaft phaser sprocket.

Attachment 504388

As a post-check, verify correct alignment of all timing marks. Make sure the R and L timing marks on the sprockets correspond with the above note.

Install the crankshaft sensor ring on the crankshaft.

Attachment 504389

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Checking back in: Freedom Racing phasers at about 43,000 miles on Formula Shell 5w-30. Still going!
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In addition to the
Timing Chain Set
Front Crank Seal
Cam Phasers....
if you had this pile of crap in your oil pan... what else would you pre order from Rock Auto?
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You've got all, if not most, of a timing chain guide in there.

Don't forget about the oil pump - Melling 360HV is recommended.

Check condition of your lash adjusters and roller rockers.
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In addition to the
Timing Chain Set
Front Crank Seal
Cam Phasers....
if you had this pile of crap in your oil pan... what else would you pre order from Rock Auto?
Are those pieces of the plastic chain guides?
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The entire plastic chain guide. Personally, I think the guy who came up with this should have a Ford trust fund setup... to pay for a hooker to come over and make me feel better. I'll deal with the problem, but gratitude would be beneficial at this moment. In light of the quantity of plastic... I would think two (2) high end hookers would be... appreciated.

I'll settle for the neighbor girl here in an hour.
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Donít forget the failed pieces that led to this: new tensioners!
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Are those in the timing chain set?
Rock Auto Part #?
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