Eric Kleven

Freedom Racing CNC phaser update:

25,000 miles and all's well.

Using most recent FoMoCo solenoids, Cloyes timing kit, and Brand X lifters/followers with cheap Formula Shell 5w-30 and a Melling 360.

qdeezie

Looking for an opinion here. I am starting to think about that M360HV pump. Does anyone think that it would cause oil starvation due to it pumping a higher volume of oil than what is circulated back to the pan? I think our 5.4s have a 7 quart oil pan, correct? Is that enough to cover the flow capacity of the M360HV?

Honestly, I'm asking the question because my M360 came in today and the box was falling apart and that sort of stuff bugs me. So if I'm going to exchange it, I'm exploring the possibility of upgrading.

F150Torqued

The oil delivery system (passageways) are a dead end closed system. However much oil that will leak / seep out of the various points along the way is ALL that is going to have to drain back down into the pan. Roughly the same as has ALWAYS done so. Hope your main-rod-cam bearings, lash adjusters, timing chain tensioners and phasers don't leak enough for THAT to be a problem. Otherwise, the spring loaded relief valve in the oil pump relieves all excess volume back into the pan in a very short circuit fashion. Don't worry about that.

Aeromech

I'm planning on doing the timing chains and phasers job soon. Yesterday I purchased over $1000 in OEM parts. For the oil pump I bought the Melling M340. I don't believe my truck needs more pump than that.

2006 F150 Lariat 5.4 3V

qdeezie

I am by no means an expert on these engines. With that being said, you might want to take a look at the Jasper video on YouTube that compares the M340 vs the M360 if you haven't already done so. That video made my decision for me.

Edit: Correction on my post. The Jasper video compares the M360 vs the OEM pump. I am not sure if the M340 does the same thing, but if it's a 1:1 OEM replacement, the chance is there.

Aeromech

I went by the shop that I want to have do this timing chain job. Showed Matthew all the OEM parts I've bought. He suggested I also replace the harmonic balancer. Can someone help me locate one? I would like OEM or better quality. This is for a 2006 5.4 3V. TIA

Holden1986

Hey all, as most of you know, I've already done this job a couple of months ago and everything is still running great etc. I just wanted to let people know, FordTechMakuloco has a video out letting you know about a new Melling oil pump, if you are needing to do this timing job. I currently have the Melling 360 in and it's working just fine. Now melling has a M340HV and a M360HV which is great for high mile engines with larger oil clearances due to age. Check out this video

Aeromech

Here's an update on parts for this job. Yesterday it took me quite a lot of trouble to figure out the correct part number for the OEM harmonic balancer for my 2006 5.4 3V. The number is 7L3Z-6312-A and F4AZ-6701-A for the oil seal that lives behind it. The local Ford dealer wanted $231.11 just for the HB. I found the seal and HB at Tasca Automotive Group for $178.63 delivered.

The rest of the parts I'm using:
OEM water pump ( ) Amazon $28.13
Melling M340HV oil pump (eBay $135)
Timing chain kit from Freedom racing ($745.51) http://www.freedomracing.com/ford-pa...ement-kit.html
2ea. OEM VCT solenoids w/ new rubber seals ($137.88) Amazon New HB bolt ( ) $13.49 Amazon
Felpro valve cover gasket set ( ) $54 Amazon

All of my parts will be Ford except the oil pump. Please keep in mind that prices change on Amazon almost daily

Aeromech

Final update: 2006 F150 Lariat 5.4 3V

As noted above I purchased all original Ford parts except the Melling m340HV oil pump. I bought a Ford harmonic balancer, Motocraft anti freeze. Thermostat too. The shop found my right side (passenger) exhaust manifold cracked with a hole in it. That part along with some attaching hardware was $232 from the Ford dealer. They dumped my freon and had to reservice the a/c.

So, the truck was in the shop for 9 days. The shop charged me $2400 but that doesn't include the roughly $1000 in parts I purchased myself. Today I'm a happy man. The truck has never driven better and there's no more choo choo from the exhaust leak.

F150Torqued

That's good news -- and cost still beats the heck out of those monthly payments on a new one by far. Actually, it's not even far from what I spent on mine (including a couple of my own FU's) and I did all the work myself.

Hope you have many miles left in it now.