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The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound

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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Livernois Motorsports
Glad to here the lockouts helped solve your issues, and thank you for helping spread the word! This is a very common issue that will resurface as mentioned. Many report this to us and are at their wits end with these engines before installing our lockouts. Many people claim they are on the 2nd or 3rd go at resolving the issue after replacing all of the timing components and the phasers sometimes twice. Once they have installed our repair kit, the cam phaser malfunction is a thing of the past.
I got a question for you. Did I read somewhere that Ford had a Mustang year where lockouts were factory installed?
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 09:29 AM
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I would personally find that hard to believe, since one valuable function the VVT system "ALSO" serves is EGR effect.


Livernois' false advertising (Fake News) purports "Once they have installed our repair kit, the cam phaser malfunction is a thing of the past". TWO key misnomers in that single sentence is "_repair kit_" and "malfunction is a thing of the past". It's doesn't 'repair' anything and it makes the _malfunction_ permanent. Plus makes cylinder head temperature run higher, places a greater load on cooling system and permanently removes EGR - increasing exhaust Nox.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by F150Torqued
I would personally find that hard to believe, since one valuable function the VVT system "ALSO" serves is EGR effect.


Livernois' false advertising (Fake News) purports "Once they have installed our repair kit, the cam phaser malfunction is a thing of the past". TWO key misnomers in that single sentence is "_repair kit_" and "malfunction is a thing of the past". It's doesn't 'repair' anything and it makes the _malfunction_ permanent. Plus makes cylinder head temperature run higher, places a greater load on cooling system and permanently removes EGR - increasing exhaust Nox.
Ya probably. I just remembered reading that and it stuck with me and it was just recently that I read that.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 09:02 PM
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ok guys, i haven't read all 312 pages of this thread, but here's my situation: 2010 F-150 5.4L v8 with only 60k miles on it. I'm noticing a light ticking/clacking sound when there's a load on the engine, like 1000 rpms going very slowly up a steep slope.

I took it to the dealership and they wanted $1400 to replace the VCT solenoids. Now I'm reading on here and realizing there could be a lot more wrong. My plan is to start off with just doing the solenoid job myself, put it back together and see if the problem goes away before I dive into phasers and tensioners.

Is that a good plan? I'm not sure I could handle doing a phaser/tensioner job myself without any help, and I can't afford the dealership's prices.
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jt_04
ok guys, i haven't read all 312 pages of this thread, but here's my situation: 2010 F-150 5.4L v8 with only 60k miles on it. I'm noticing a light ticking/clacking sound when there's a load on the engine, like 1000 rpms going very slowly up a steep slope.

I took it to the dealership and they wanted $1400 to replace the VCT solenoids. Now I'm reading on here and realizing there could be a lot more wrong. My plan is to start off with just doing the solenoid job myself, put it back together and see if the problem goes away before I dive into phasers and tensioners.

Is that a good plan? I'm not sure I could handle doing a phaser/tensioner job myself without any help, and I can't afford the dealership's prices.

Yep, easy to do. Will take you less then 15 minutes. Buy the latest rendition of the solenoids that have the narrow passages.


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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by F150Torqued
I would personally find that hard to believe, since one valuable function the VVT system "ALSO" serves is EGR effect.


Livernois' false advertising (Fake News) purports "Once they have installed our repair kit, the cam phaser malfunction is a thing of the past". TWO key misnomers in that single sentence is "_repair kit_" and "malfunction is a thing of the past". It's doesn't 'repair' anything and it makes the _malfunction_ permanent. Plus makes cylinder head temperature run higher, places a greater load on cooling system and permanently removes EGR - increasing exhaust Nox.
Never had any issue with the lockouts installed. Increased low end torque, quiet engine, and the knowledge that these phasers are not going to create any further issues gives me confidence in my truck. I have never seen any evidence concerning cylinder head temperatures and cooling issues. The EGR function could have been pursued with Ford as an emissions defect.
My repair involved replacing the chains, guides, tensioners, cam bolts, crank gear sprocket and of course the lockouts.

Seeing how many people on this thread have had issue trying to fix this problem without the lockouts, makes me very happy that I installed the lockouts. My brother , with the same truck, had his repaired by Ford under warranty, but guess what ? Trouble came back 2 years after warranty expired.

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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NOTAGT
I have never seen any evidence concerning cylinder head temperatures and cooling issues.

How are you monitoring that? How did you measure more low end torque? Just curious we like facts not just "well it feels more powerful" or "the heads have never melted"
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 05:39 PM
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Not to mention how are your mpg's? They had to have taken some kind of a hit
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Johanson
Yep, easy to do. Will take you less then 15 minutes. Buy the latest rendition of the solenoids that have the narrow passages.


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less than 15 minutes for the VCT solenoids? Don't I have to take the valve covers off? and a lot of stuff to get to them? I mean, I can change my oil in 15 minutes, but that's about it. The dealership told me it would take them 2 days. I'm planning on a full day to do it.
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jt_04
less than 15 minutes for the VCT solenoids? Don't I have to take the valve covers off? and a lot of stuff to get to them? I mean, I can change my oil in 15 minutes, but that's about it. The dealership told me it would take them 2 days. I'm planning on a full day to do it.
04-06 you don't have to take the valve covers 07-08 you do have to take them off.
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