The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound
#12
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Great Write Up!!!!!!
This is fantastic. I want to get this done this spring. I have a question.. starting up the engine when the job is complete, I see that some guys have had the timing jump on them....is this something I, or we, should be concerned with?..Sorry for all the questions I just want to make sure I do this right...I don't know if the problem is if the engine is under compression or if it is something else...thanks...and again fantastic write up..Cheers..Spike24
Last edited by Spike24; 03-02-2012 at 06:03 PM.
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PeteTool (09-07-2022)
#13
2005 XLT F150
That was a fantastic write up. I'm about to do the same exact thing I do have excess chain slack and do Have a tick.and some chain slap sometimes at startup .. not injectors ..at full warm .. I believe that's what's causing the issue with this motor. Its a very good design. And will last but the basic public doesn't have the knowledg..that we motor heads have. And ford. $$$$$ doesnt want anyone to figire it out.U should write this article up and sell it lmao
#14
Hey guys.
I will try to best answer your questions from my blackberry here.
You don't have to remove the engine. After removing fan, power steering pump, and other small crap in the way, there is enough room to work.
AC does have to be decharged.
As for timing chain slack. With new tight chains, it should not be able to jump. Only when the chain is worn badly.
Even at that there are 2 good practices
1. Always turn engine over by hand a few fell revolutions to ensure there is no piston to valve contact (just use a socket and ratchet)
2. Remove pcm fuse and crank engine for 10 seconds before attempting to start to build some initial oil pressure.
I will try to best answer your questions from my blackberry here.
You don't have to remove the engine. After removing fan, power steering pump, and other small crap in the way, there is enough room to work.
AC does have to be decharged.
As for timing chain slack. With new tight chains, it should not be able to jump. Only when the chain is worn badly.
Even at that there are 2 good practices
1. Always turn engine over by hand a few fell revolutions to ensure there is no piston to valve contact (just use a socket and ratchet)
2. Remove pcm fuse and crank engine for 10 seconds before attempting to start to build some initial oil pressure.
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PeteTool (09-07-2022)
#16
cam phaser solenoids LOOK!!
hi i recently bought a 2004 f150 lariat its a nice truck but it had the phaser noise sounds like a deisel my buddys keep asking if its a deisel it was annoying so anyway i researched it and found a thread someone had their pasers fixed and still the sound was ther so this guy replaced the cam phaser selenoids they control the oil flow to the phaser so i took this furthur i ran a couple 500 mi oil changes with sea foam in the oil and replaced the solenoids for $133 per side GUESS WHAT ALMOST NO NOISE!!!!! MY TRUCK HAS 150000 MI ON IT AND THIS WORKED shur beats 2300 at the stealership!!! i just did this to my truck this week including a rear diff fluid change to royal purple 75 140 witch fixed a rearend shutter i had im no mechanic or tech or anything but i can turn a wrench and this worked sofar for me im very happy with the results !!!!
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#18
Great write up! My question is how you know if a lash adjuster or roller follower is bad. Ive never seen a good one or a bad one. Is it really obvious or do I need a micrometer? What should I look for?
#19
Senior Member
This is great, my buddy has 140k on his and a horrible tick, but im at 80k and only a light tick. And i would die if mine sounded like his hahah.
Anyways , im very handy with just abt any tool u show me but would you have any advice for me for learning what each part and its components does and how it functions before i jump into this and make a costly mistake? Thanks!
Anyways , im very handy with just abt any tool u show me but would you have any advice for me for learning what each part and its components does and how it functions before i jump into this and make a costly mistake? Thanks!
#20
Cam followers/rockers just look for wear on them. The only real way to check them is to remove them with the tool and turn the roller portion and check the bearing.
The lash adjuster is harder, you can check to see if any bleed down after the motor sits for a while.
When in doubt and its open, replace them.
The lash adjuster is harder, you can check to see if any bleed down after the motor sits for a while.
When in doubt and its open, replace them.