The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound
Don't crack on Dorman too much. They're exhaust manifold does a pretty good job as a door stop in my garage.
I only pick on twits who have a problem with simple corrective advice, lol.
Poor intolerant humourless yungin's.
MGD
The inside of my stock oil pump

Note the small channel circled around the pump (its like a trap of some sort).
Now notice the black material in the bottom right corner, it was gritty.

My new pump with the steel backing plate

Note the small channel circled around the pump (its like a trap of some sort).
Now notice the black material in the bottom right corner, it was gritty.

My new pump with the steel backing plate
Last edited by Fordjunkync; Mar 30, 2015 at 05:24 AM.
Thank you so much for this information. I just bought my truck and still have 5 years worth of payments. Before reading your post I thought I was going to have to voluntarily turn over it to the bank because I couldn't afford a new engine. I now understand the issue and the solution and feel confident that I can find a mechanic in my new town that will understand it also. Thanks so much!
Still have to deal with these parts below even with locking the phasers.
My OLD stock 2009 chain tensioner & seal

My NEW motorcraft chain tensioner & seal

My OLD stock 2009 chain tensioner & seal

My NEW motorcraft chain tensioner & seal

Last edited by Fordjunkync; Mar 31, 2015 at 09:25 PM.
Is somebody making big money off these things? Because I almost went this route before doing the job this thread is dedicated too, installing the whole set. Truck has been amazing since and I would consider jamming the camshafts a last resort to a failed motor.
Greetings all,
I own a 2005 F150 with the 5.4 at 170,000 miles (has the diesel sound feature). I've had the knocking/engine stall issue intermittently for about a year now...engine at operating temp, coming to a stop, the truck will low idle, with that horrible knocking coming from the passenger side. Does not happen when the engine is cold. The CEL is on, and it's throwing a camshaft position sensor code for that bank. Funny thing is, the truck will do this for a few weeks, then it won't do it at all. If I blip the throttle when it's knocking...taking it up to about 2,000 RPM, when it idles back down, the noise vanishes, and the idle is smooth...until I come to a stop again, where I repeat the process. I just took a 1,000 mile round trip, and the truck was acting up again, so I decided to run this thread down and get the info I needed to get it fixed. (I took it to a Ford dealer about 20,000 miles ago, and got the infamous "your oil pressure is dropping below 25PSI at idle...you need a new engine...for $7k plus labor"). Needless to say, I told them to go pound salt. I just ordered the parts, and I thought I'd offer an update. The parts cost has come down a pretty good amount. I was able to order all the parts s_vares has listed, plus a timing cover gasket set (Fel-Pro) for $412.55 including shipping. The timing cover gasket set is $39.79. All parts ordered from Rock Auto.
Thanb
I own a 2005 F150 with the 5.4 at 170,000 miles (has the diesel sound feature). I've had the knocking/engine stall issue intermittently for about a year now...engine at operating temp, coming to a stop, the truck will low idle, with that horrible knocking coming from the passenger side. Does not happen when the engine is cold. The CEL is on, and it's throwing a camshaft position sensor code for that bank. Funny thing is, the truck will do this for a few weeks, then it won't do it at all. If I blip the throttle when it's knocking...taking it up to about 2,000 RPM, when it idles back down, the noise vanishes, and the idle is smooth...until I come to a stop again, where I repeat the process. I just took a 1,000 mile round trip, and the truck was acting up again, so I decided to run this thread down and get the info I needed to get it fixed. (I took it to a Ford dealer about 20,000 miles ago, and got the infamous "your oil pressure is dropping below 25PSI at idle...you need a new engine...for $7k plus labor"). Needless to say, I told them to go pound salt. I just ordered the parts, and I thought I'd offer an update. The parts cost has come down a pretty good amount. I was able to order all the parts s_vares has listed, plus a timing cover gasket set (Fel-Pro) for $412.55 including shipping. The timing cover gasket set is $39.79. All parts ordered from Rock Auto.
Thanb
ROCK AUTO
Timing Chain Set
Part # 90391SB ($189.00 both chains, tesioners, guides, lower sprocket) Made by Cloves... Very nice quality
Front Crank Seal
Part # TCS46117 ($5.36) Fel-Pro
Cam Phasers
Part # 917250 ($139.19 each so X2) Comes with new bolt
$474.36 total.... Dont forget about the 5% off rock auto too
You wont see the crank seal in this guide, but its in the front engine cover!
Also- DONT FORGET TO PUT ENGINE TO TDC
Here is a picture of bolt locations on front cover

This calls for about 10 shop hours so TAKE YOUR TIME
and I reccomend blue loctite on all bolts inside timing cover except phaser
Timing Chain Set
Part # 90391SB ($189.00 both chains, tesioners, guides, lower sprocket) Made by Cloves... Very nice quality
Front Crank Seal
Part # TCS46117 ($5.36) Fel-Pro
Cam Phasers
Part # 917250 ($139.19 each so X2) Comes with new bolt
$474.36 total.... Dont forget about the 5% off rock auto too

You wont see the crank seal in this guide, but its in the front engine cover!
Also- DONT FORGET TO PUT ENGINE TO TDC
Here is a picture of bolt locations on front cover

This calls for about 10 shop hours so TAKE YOUR TIME
and I reccomend blue loctite on all bolts inside timing cover except phaser
Last edited by harescrambled; Apr 1, 2015 at 02:17 PM.


