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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 11:36 PM
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So I out everything back together and it still idles rough after warm..throwing the same code P0022? I can't believe this we triple checked everything and it still is doing the same thing! I don't understand it, mechanic friend told me I warped a head but wouldn't it be looking coolant into he oil? Running rough all the time? I'm broke and now out of ideas? Someone please help.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:54 AM
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So I out everything back together and it still idles rough after warm..throwing the same code P0022? I can't believe this we triple checked everything and it still is doing the same thing! I don't understand it, mechanic friend told me I warped a head but wouldn't it be looking coolant into he oil? Running rough all the time? I'm broke and now out of ideas? Someone please help.
The only way to know if the head is warped is to take it out and test it. If it is, or if it just has a bad head gasket, that doesn't mean you'll definitely have oil in coolant or coolant in oil. No matter what, a warped head or blown gasket won't give you a p0022. To get that code, something else has to be going on with either the vct solenoid or the phaser (including incorrect timing). What brand of parts did you use?
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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^2 what brand of parts did you use, dormans have been known to be defective right away. Swap the VCT solenoids to the opposite banks and reset the computer, see if the code follows. If it does, clean the bad one with throttle body cleaner, dip in clean oil and reinstall. I had to do that as well. I had p0012, that took care of the code. Mine, however was not running rough. Swap them and see if it follows. Good luck
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 08:47 AM
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^2 what brand of parts did you use, dormans have been known to be defective right away. Swap the VCT solenoids to the opposite banks and reset the computer, see if the code follows. If it does, clean the bad one with throttle body cleaner, dip in clean oil and reinstall. I had to do that as well. I had p0012, that took care of the code. Mine, however was not running rough. Swap them and see if it follows. Good luck

I will try this tonight...I purchased Dorman Phasers, I wish now I would have got OEM parts. I'll try switching them, I appreciate the help. Could the phaser already be bad....
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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I will try this tonight...I purchased Dorman Phasers, I wish now I would have got OEM parts. I'll try switching them, I appreciate the help. Could the phaser already be bad....
I bought Dorman phasers and had absolutely no issues with them.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 12:22 PM
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I bought Dorman phasers and had absolutely no issues with them.

Guess my question is if I switch the solenoids and they are working properly do I attempt to switch the phasers? I just dont understand how it runs perfect down the highway and occasionally idles really rough at a stop? Tearing that thing apart again makes me sick....I also purchased a new oil pump and replaced it while I was in there. New Cam sensors as well! My buddy said my computer might be going bad but I dont know. I dont want to take it to Ford but it looks like im running out of options???
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 10:11 PM
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Guess my question is if I switch the solenoids and they are working properly do I attempt to switch the phasers? I just dont understand how it runs perfect down the highway and occasionally idles really rough at a stop? Tearing that thing apart again makes me sick....I also purchased a new oil pump and replaced it while I was in there. New Cam sensors as well! My buddy said my computer might be going bad but I dont know. I dont want to take it to Ford but it looks like im running out of options???

Well I changed VCT solenoids and the same thing...rough idol and P0022 code....I'm just sick over this whole mess..mechanic told me my heads are warped and that's the rough idol and codes...I can't think it needs a new motor like Ford tells me on the phone before I even bring it over there??? I just don't know what to do next? Guess take it for diagnostics and see what they tell me and go from there.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mh104084

Well I changed VCT solenoids and the same thing...rough idol and P0022 code....I'm just sick over this whole mess..mechanic told me my heads are warped and that's the rough idol and codes...I can't think it needs a new motor like Ford tells me on the phone before I even bring it over there??? I just don't know what to do next? Guess take it for diagnostics and see what they tell me and go from there.
Why does he think the head is warped? Is there coolant in the oil, oil in the coolant, has he done a compression test? Were the camshaft or journals damaged? Is there oil and/or coolant coming out the side of the motor at the head gasket? I may be missing something, but I don't understand why he would think a warped head would cause a p0022 code.

This may be a long shot, but the camshaft position sensor or it's wiring could be faulty and sending the wrong information to the pcm.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 11:22 PM
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Why does he think the head is warped? Is there coolant in the oil, oil in the coolant, has he done a compression test? Were the camshaft or journals damaged? Is there oil and/or coolant coming out the side of the motor at the head gasket? I may be missing something, but I don't understand why he would think a warped head would cause a p0022 code.

This may be a long shot, but the camshaft position sensor or it's wiring could be faulty and sending the wrong information to the pcm.
He thinks it's a warped head because he has two with identical issues in his shop right now that he has learned have warped heads....I do nit have coolant in the oil or oil in the coolant. One camshaft was brand new and the other seemed smooth with no visual damage. I just don't know what the right thing to do here is I don't have anymore money to put into the truck for another couple weeks....I feel like I should have diagnostics done on it that could possibly tell me more? I don't want to just give up and go with someone's gut feeling i need a new motor or a rebuild because my heads are warped. The engine doesn't over heat and like I said drives fine down the highway at 65mph but occasionally coming to a top or turn it starts idling rough. More so when the wheel is turned and the engine is under load.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 12:11 AM
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I agree about not replacing the motor because of someone's gut feeling. I think you should start a new thread and give as many details as you can. With your own thread, you'll probably get some more responses and ideas.
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