The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound
Yes, I am doing a terrible job explaining. You are supposed to set the engine at tdc. In this position the rh and lh marks on the phasers will be in the correct position, however, if you rotate the crank one full turn the lh and rh marks will now be opposite (or 180 degrees) (each phaser has both lh and rh marks)This is the position that I removed the phasers. The phasers are keyed and can only go on one way for each camshaft. So my question is will putting the new ones back on in this oriaentation still allow for correct timing. I still am probably doing a poor job describing.
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Could you see the colored links on the old chain? If not, you have to rotate each one around. If you did and you know exactly where everything was, I can't see why you couldn't just put the **** back on the same way you took it off.
Put the phaser on each one the only way it will go and slowly rotate each one around using the phaser bolt to turn it. Get the drivers side at 11 (sitting in the car) and then rotate the passenger side one the same way.
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Could you see the colored links on the old chain? If not, you have to rotate each one around. If you did and you know exactly where everything was, I can't see why you couldn't just put the **** back on the same way you took it off.
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Could you see the colored links on the old chain? If not, you have to rotate each one around. If you did and you know exactly where everything was, I can't see why you couldn't just put the **** back on the same way you took it off.
Put the phaser on each one the only way it will go and slowly rotate each one around using the phaser bolt to turn it. Get the drivers side at 11 (sitting in the car) and then rotate the passenger side one the same way.
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Could you see the colored links on the old chain? If not, you have to rotate each one around. If you did and you know exactly where everything was, I can't see why you couldn't just put the **** back on the same way you took it off.
Safecracker, I am using one of your picks to hopefully better derscribe where I am at. This pick shows the phasers in the correct position for removal. Mine are in the opposite position (take the one on the right and move it to the left, same for the left one) My crank is positioned exactly as shown. So the cams are 180 degrees off because I was pissed for having to do this job again and just lined crap up and started pulling stuff off without paying attention (lesson learned). Vtx advice is good for peace of mind, but I have an aversion to cranking the cams around. If the valves don't clear then I am really screwed. Logic is telling me I can just line up the links since they are exactly 180 degrees from the starting point the documents reccomed. As vtx said , the crank doenst know, and if it's exactly 180 then I should be able to just use the links???
Safecracker, I am using one of your picks to hopefully better derscribe where I am at. This pick shows the phasers in the correct position for removal. Mine are in the opposite position (take the one on the right and move it to the left, same for the left one) My crank is positioned exactly as shown. So the cams are 180 degrees off because I was pissed for having to do this job again and just lined crap up and started pulling stuff off without paying attention (lesson learned). Vtx advice is good for peace of mind, but I have an aversion to cranking the cams around. If the valves don't clear then I am really screwed. Logic is telling me I can just line up the links since they are exactly 180 degrees from the starting point the documents reccomed. As vtx said , the crank doenst know, and if it's exactly 180 then I should be able to just use the links???
Safecracker, I am using one of your picks to hopefully better derscribe where I am at. This pick shows the phasers in the correct position for removal. Mine are in the opposite position (take the one on the right and move it to the left, same for the left one) My crank is positioned exactly as shown. So the cams are 180 degrees off because I was pissed for having to do this job again and just lined crap up and started pulling stuff off without paying attention (lesson learned). Vtx advice is good for peace of mind, but I have an aversion to cranking the cams around. If the valves don't clear then I am really screwed. Logic is telling me I can just line up the links since they are exactly 180 degrees from the starting point the documents reccomed. As vtx said , the crank doenst know, and if it's exactly 180 then I should be able to just use the links???
Last edited by VTX1800N1; Mar 28, 2014 at 07:10 PM.
Ok so I went ahead and took off the covers and reinspected everything. I had the timing marks all lined up and good to go per the pictures on the first page. Today I got everything put together, threw in fresh oil, new coolant, power steering fluid, checked all vacuum lines, electrical connectors, held the gas down for about 10 seconds while cranking, tried to start started and it started right up and sounded GREAT...
Ran for about 5 seconds and sputtered to death.
Check gauges light comes on, as well as flashing engine light, but no codes on either my crappy iPhone OBDII scanner or my Diablo Sport.
Anybody got any ideas?
Ran for about 5 seconds and sputtered to death.
Check gauges light comes on, as well as flashing engine light, but no codes on either my crappy iPhone OBDII scanner or my Diablo Sport.
Anybody got any ideas?
Ok so I went ahead and took off the covers and reinspected everything. I had the timing marks all lined up and good to go per the pictures on the first page. Today I got everything put together, threw in fresh oil, new coolant, power steering fluid, checked all vacuum lines, electrical connectors, held the gas down for about 10 seconds while cranking, tried to start started and it started right up and sounded GREAT...
Ran for about 5 seconds and sputtered to death.
Check gauges light comes on, as well as flashing engine light, but no codes on either my crappy iPhone OBDII scanner or my Diablo Sport.
Anybody got any ideas?
Ran for about 5 seconds and sputtered to death.
Check gauges light comes on, as well as flashing engine light, but no codes on either my crappy iPhone OBDII scanner or my Diablo Sport.
Anybody got any ideas?
Just talked to the mechanic that has had my truck while I've been on vacation. He says my driver side chain had over an inch of slack in it and both phasers were sprung. The good news was he had no problem with the plugs and the lash adjusters were all working properly.





