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The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound

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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dontnonottin
This is the kit I used. http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-NEW-Ford...48ac31&vxp=mtr

I agree the phasers are the same. My question was concerning the tensioners. There are 2 different part numbers. 1 is marked "L" & the other is marked "R".
Just got that kit in the mail yesterday. How's it running now? I am always worried about eBay stuff for jobs like this, but it came with all the Ford part numbers and packaging so I assume we are good to go.
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Never mind haha

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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FFBoomer519
Just got that kit in the mail yesterday. How's it running now? I am always worried about eBay stuff for jobs like this, but it came with all the Ford part numbers and packaging so I assume we are good to go.
Remember the guy who started this thread sells the kits to do it on eBay
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 10:32 PM
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Well I triple checked all the timing before throwing it back together. Then I got the motor and accessories put back together.

First start was not a success.

Sounds like a dying out 1930's era Ford tractor and smells like I poured a couple gallons of gasoline around my garage.

WTF could I have done?
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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Does anyone know how to remove the plastic tube that holds the oil cap? I want to get a closer look under the front cover to see if there's any noticeable damage to the some of the newly installed components, but this piecse of tube obstructs most of the "view". Could someone who has their engine open take a pic of what's holding it? I tried twisting and pulling, but am afraid that I will break some small piece of the plastic that's probably holding it in place...

I'm still getting a ticking sound upon cold start for about 2-3 minutes, with or without the belt, and now consistently with higher revs too.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by djfuzzy
Well I triple checked all the timing before throwing it back together. Then I got the motor and accessories put back together. First start was not a success. Sounds like a dying out 1930's era Ford tractor and smells like I poured a couple gallons of gasoline around my garage. WTF could I have done?
. Did you turn it over by hand before you started it? Is it trying to jump out of the engine bay? Pm me
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TRuck07
Does anyone know how to remove the plastic tube that holds the oil cap? I want to get a closer look under the front cover to see if there's any noticeable damage to the some of the newly installed components, but this piecse of tube obstructs most of the "view". Could someone who has their engine open take a pic of what's holding it? I tried twisting and pulling, but am afraid that I will break some small piece of the plastic that's probably holding it in place... I'm still getting a ticking sound upon cold start for about 2-3 minutes, with or without the belt, and now consistently with higher revs too.
I believe it twist off?
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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I could use some help please. Sorry if this is an existing topic. I have no idea if this is the cam phasers or not. I dont hear the chain slap but I'm not very versed on this. Most of the topics I read about didn't have the exact same things happening that I am experiencing. I recently went on a trip from Northern Utah to Southern California and back. Since going on the trip a couple things have come up when we reached California. The first thing is I am now getting a very loud ticking sound. It sounds like it is coming from under the truck and is loudest around the front drivers door and the front passengers door. If you open the hood and you are standing right over the engine, you can barely hear the ticking sound. This happens on idle, accelerating, pretty much anytime on a cold and warm engine. I also have noticed since the ticking sound has came on there is an acceleration problem when under moderate acceleration. When you first press on the throttle the response is normal and if you give a moderate amount of throttle, it lags and struggles to pick up speed. If you give it a lot of throttle it will then pick up speed fairly normally.

Another thing to note is that on the way down I averaged about 14.5 MPG on a couple tanks of gas purchased in Utah. Then on the next 3 tanks buying gas in Nevada and California I averaged 10.5 MPG and when I noticed the above mentioned problems (ticking & acceleration) problems. Then the last tank of gas I filled up in Utah again, with I am now getting back around 14.5 MPG and have a little more power (ticking is still the same). So on the drive when I had the cruise control set at 80 MPH on the way down to Cali the truck did great handling hills with minimal downshifts. With the gas from Nevada and California, when on the freeway it would more than struggle with tiny hills and downshift like crazy and even struggle to get up to the cruise speed. With the most recent gas from Utah again, it did so much better handling the hills and acted more normal like the drive down to California. Could I have got a couple tanks of bad gas and could it have caused any of this? Could it be that Nevada and California have a little different fuel mixtures? I do know that I always fill up in Utah with 85 octane and it has always ran great. Nevada and California only have 87 as the lowest and that is when I have noticed all the problems as well. When I got back to 85 octane from Utah the performance has increased again.

Sorry its so long. Hopefully it makes sense. Just want to put as much info as I can think of.

Thank you in advance for any help or feedback.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by henduford
I could use some help please. Sorry if this is an existing topic. I have no idea if this is the cam phasers or not. I dont hear the chain slap but I'm not very versed on this. Most of the topics I read about didn't have the exact same things happening that I am experiencing. I recently went on a trip from Northern Utah to Southern California and back. Since going on the trip a couple things have come up when we reached California. The first thing is I am now getting a very loud ticking sound. It sounds like it is coming from under the truck and is loudest around the front drivers door and the front passengers door. If you open the hood and you are standing right over the engine, you can barely hear the ticking sound. This happens on idle, accelerating, pretty much anytime on a cold and warm engine. I also have noticed since the ticking sound has came on there is an acceleration problem when under moderate acceleration. When you first press on the throttle the response is normal and if you give a moderate amount of throttle, it lags and struggles to pick up speed. If you give it a lot of throttle it will then pick up speed fairly normally. Another thing to note is that on the way down I averaged about 14.5 MPG on a couple tanks of gas purchased in Utah. Then on the next 3 tanks buying gas in Nevada and California I averaged 10.5 MPG and when I noticed the above mentioned problems (ticking & acceleration) problems. Then the last tank of gas I filled up in Utah again, with I am now getting back around 14.5 MPG and have a little more power (ticking is still the same). So on the drive when I had the cruise control set at 80 MPH on the way down to Cali the truck did great handling hills with minimal downshifts. With the gas from Nevada and California, when on the freeway it would more than struggle with tiny hills and downshift like crazy and even struggle to get up to the cruise speed. With the most recent gas from Utah again, it did so much better handling the hills and acted more normal like the drive down to California. Could I have got a couple tanks of bad gas and could it have caused any of this? Could it be that Nevada and California have a little different fuel mixtures? I do know that I always fill up in Utah with 85 octane and it has always ran great. Nevada and California only have 87 as the lowest and that is when I have noticed all the problems as well. When I got back to 85 octane from Utah the performance has increased again. Sorry its so long. Hopefully it makes sense. Just want to put as much info as I can think of. Thank you in advance for any help or feedback.
Ticking could be vct solenoids. If they are partially clogged then it could cause intermittent problems.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002VertGt

Ticking could be vct solenoids. If they are partially clogged then it could cause intermittent problems.
Is there an easy way to tell if that's what it is? Any way to check it on my own without having to take somewhere?
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