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The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound

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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SafeCrackerCam
It is backwards but I have no clue if that matters. When speaking of the engine...always reference it as if you are sitting in the drivers seat. Drivers side is left, passenger is right. You don't judge the handing standing like a deer in front of the truck.
I realize this but didn't think about it. Things were going smooth for re-assembly. At this point, I'm not pulling it apart. I'm going to drive it. If I have to ever go back in, I'll fix it then. I'm just curious as to what the difference is.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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There is no difference they are the same. That is each phaser has a R and L marking. If it is running correctly with no codes then you got it back correctly.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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This is the kit I used. http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-NEW-Ford...48ac31&vxp=mtr

I agree the phasers are the same. My question was concerning the tensioners. There are 2 different part numbers. 1 is marked "L" & the other is marked "R".
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 09:21 PM
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Just for general curiosity's sake. The passenger side timing chain is tight, like has no budge to it at all. However the driver's size chain, I can fit a 13/16 impact bit in between the guide and the chain, so obviously it's very loose.

Is this the case on most people's trucks? Whenever I cold started the truck I would notice excessive noise from the driver's side and figured it was the chain slapping so this kind of confirms it. But is there something defective about the drivers side or is my truck a rarity?
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Sounds like the tensioner is bad. On ours, both chains were tight but we push on the tensioners and the passenger side became loose. The drivers side stayed tight.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dontnonottin
This is the kit I used. http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-NEW-Ford...48ac31&vxp=mtr I agree the phasers are the same. My question was concerning the tensioners. There are 2 different part numbers. 1 is marked "L" & the other is marked "R".
Oh ok. The only difference I saw was that one had a hole in the pin and the other did not. I can't remember which. I don't know what it's purpose was?
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Upon further inspection of the phasers I discovered this and was far too entertained by it. But this legit looks like a distraught face from the LH phaser.

The Final Repair Guide to 5.4 Cam Phaser Tick/Knock Sound-zats73g.jpg

I've named him Randall in case anyone cares.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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Any tips for holding the phasers in place while torquing them down?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:57 PM
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If anyone who recently ordered from rock auto and has a discount code I could use please pm it to me! I need to order a engine!
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 12:18 AM
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[QUOTE=djfuzzy;3346833]Any tips for holding the phasers in place while torquing them down?[/

I went a different route than using a lockout tool or vice grips in between the lobes. I loosened both bolts before removing the timing cover, belt and all. When I took off the cover and chains, I used the old chain to hold it in place. I put two of the timing cover mounting screws into the cover mounting holes and wrapped the chain around the phaser and locking it off at both mounting bolts with vice grips. I was hesitant but it worked great to be honest. The phaser could not turn either way.

As far as that chain slack. At different points as the motor turns the chain will slacken very briefly and then tighten back up. I rotated my engine probably 250 times by hand because I thought I had something knocking in the engine and messed something up.

I started her up tonight about 30 minutes ago. She is quiter than ever. The truck had a very gentle stall went I backed up. I started it back up and drove around for 15 minutes with no further issues. Tomorrow I need to do the foam trick to get rid of the groaning/bogged down sound.
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