Pavementtommy

How serious is the tick? I don't really mind the sound, but if it's leading to internal engine damage I want to get it fixed. Thanks for any info,
Tom

vp110

Hey Guys, alittle help please. I tore my engine down last night for phaser/chain/ guide replacement: my question is at TDC the key on the crank is not at 12 o'clock but closer to 10 0r eleven o'clock. I have already pulled the chains and swaped phasers. Should I align chain marks from here and if I need to "tweek" the cams/phasers to align??

Thanks in advance and this post has been most helpful.

-J-

gforceman

Just be sure the time marks all line up when chains r installed. If u need to tweek.. very very little .. I had to tweek the pass side cam when installing the passenger side chain / phaser when aligning the dowel pin on camshaft

pejjlee

Replace both side. That work for me when I had the same problem. Good luck!

awk1964

Just ordered all the Parts. Going to put her back together next weekend. RockAuto has the best prices that i could find. If you guys are going to order parts from them here is the code to save 5%. B973B3C370B3 Will post how it runs after i get her back together.

vp110

Hey, Thanks for the help. Got a little scared I guess! lol. All timimng marks lined up perfect. After opening the timing cover the pass side chain guide was trashed busted. Only pieces visible where the pieces held in place by the mounting bolts. After timing the driver side marks I put on the cam (paint marker) lined up perfect. The pass side pen marks are about 10 deg off (off original cam pen marks). I think thats how much it jumped time. It was running like dog crapolla.
Any hoot, back to reassembly... hasn't ran yet so I'll know soon enough if have F*** up or not.

Again thanks guys.

gforceman

Be sure to hold pedal to floor before starting it .. ( will turn over but not start ) will prime the tensioners with oil ... when u r ready to start it. U will cringe ..haha. I did 2x times in less than a year

vp110

Well I got everything done finally. What a job! Going to start it for the first was the most nervous / tense thing I think I have ever done . Anyways, alll went good and man the thing runs like a top. Sure appreciate the heck out of this tread and all the help.

kdeaver

I installed the cloyes timing kit with the guides and tensioners, new vct solenoids, new dorman phasers, all new gaskets on anything I removed, cleaned out the oil pan as well as the oil pump intake tube. I even did the plugs, water pump, fan clutch and topped it all off with a new belt. I visually checked the camshaft and lifters and rollers, all looked good. Took about 4 days but No more noise! My truck soundss great! The only problem is that this will not not fix a problem that I thought was related to all the phaser issues. I should have replaced the oil pump! The reason I finally tore into this was not for the noise, which I've put up with for years. It was because the truck recently started to not idle normally. Anytime it would get warmed up and come down to a stop from being on the interstate it would almost choke out and knock until I feathered the gas pedal. I was told at the dealer that it was VCT problems. IT STILL DOES THIS! It also makes sounds like its knocking and out of control on startup in the morning. Can Anyone help? Is my motor finished at 160,000 miles because of low oil pressure not controlling the vct solenoids as i suspect or can I replace the oil pump and save my motor?

lhill58

Look for the thread "Did complete cam phaser repair, worse than before!" I recommend ford replacement parts only for this job. Might be more than just this but you will have problems later with the dorman crap trust me. If you suspect oil pressure issue look into getting a oil pressure gauge.