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Ok so adapter finally arrived today and now I'm learning to use forSCAN and I took some screenshots of the info and was hoping some of you more experienced gentlemen could have a look and tell me how everything looks.
The code B1352-60 is key ignition wire or something like that and don't believe it's of importance and the other code P1184 I believe is just because the engine wasn't at full operating temperature when I did the scan.
Also I'm using the free version and wondering if I need a paid version to do timing/phaser diagnoses and other interesting stuff like that? EDIT(JUST PURCHASED 1 YEAR PAID VERSION)
Any assistance helping me learn this will be very much appreciated
Are you looking for data regarding a problem, real or perceived, or are you just poking around out of curiosity?
Yah just poking around trying to figure out what does what, but also wanting to use forscan to check timing/phasers.......that test where the readings should hover around zero.
No real issues I can point my finger on, but kinda think i can hear the start of a bad roller follower.....then again i just ran seafoam in my block for 50km then changed the oil with 5W-30 Penzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic with motorcraft filter and boy oh boy she sounds so purrrrdy lol.
Seriously though I'm a welder/fabricator and I've always done my own parts repairs, but never really dug into engines till now aside from replacing exhaust manifolds and other minor stuff so just trying to learn as much as I can here.
Yah just poking around trying to figure out what does what, but also wanting to use forscan to check timing/phasers.......that test where the readings should hover around zero……
……….. so just trying to learn as much as I can here.
Thank you 🙂
The forscan error pid looks different from the IDS pid you are asking about . Unlike IDS that hovers horizontally around 0 when phasers in good condition Forscan uses the scope screen (shown in this pic from different occasions when I was checking my VCT error). The trace will oscillate vertically around 0 - or the dashboard shows it in number form around 0 also . Once you get the hang of it is a really good tool. You may also want to mess around with the demo mode and see how the program works- nice feature 👍🏻
The forscan error pid looks different from the IDS pid you are asking about . Unlike IDS that hovers horizontally around 0 when phasers in good condition Forscan uses the scope screen (shown in this pic from different occasions when I was checking my VCT error). The trace will oscillate vertically around 0 - or the dashboard shows it in number form around 0 also . Once you get the hang of it is a really good tool. You may also want to mess around with the demo mode and see how the program works- nice feature 👍🏻
What is demo mode?
So tonight I spent some time exploring the program and I'm getting the hang of it, but SO MUCH still to learn lol.
Here's some of the info I collected( idle operating temp)and if you could let me know if you see any issues I'd greatly appreciate it.
So tonight I spent some time exploring the program and I'm getting the hang of it, but SO MUCH still to learn lol.
Here's some of the info I collected( idle operating temp)and if you could let me know if you see any issues I'd greatly appreciate it.
Big thank you
The demo mode I believe under the last icon or gear icon. After you select it - It will say “ switch to demo mode?” Hit yes and you will get a couple of model years car choices - pick one and it will load the cars profile you can mess with. The ELM adapter not needed for demo.
Your info looks fine and mode6 indicates no misfires so you are good there. The VCT PIDS need a input when monitoring them ie. under load. For example if you hold break and raise rpm / oil pressure the phasers will unlock around 1100 and you should see them retard to around ~45% ( ignore how forscan calls It advance as phasers retard under normal operation). If you do this and returns to idle all smooth your system is fine.
If your cel is off and engine runs smooth in all RPM range (no phaser knock etc .) don’t go looking for a problem that is not there - good luck enjoy this program- wish we could get it for non ford vehicles.
The demo mode I believe under the last icon or gear icon. After you select it - It will say “ switch to demo mode?” Hit yes and you will get a couple of model years car choices - pick one and it will load the cars profile you can mess with. The ELM adapter not needed for demo.
Your info looks fine and mode6 indicates no misfires so you are good there. The VCT PIDS need a input when monitoring them ie. under load. For example if you hold break and raise rpm / oil pressure the phasers will unlock around 1100 and you should see them retard to around ~45% ( ignore how forscan calls It advance as phasers retard under normal operation). If you do this and returns to idle all smooth your system is fine.
If your cel is off and engine runs smooth in all RPM range (no phaser knock etc .) don’t go looking for a problem that is not there - good luck enjoy this program- wish we could get it for non ford vehicles.
Ok so I'll redo the test, but this time I'll put it under load by giving it some gas while brake is depressed. I actually tried that last night and it returned to normal, but I didn't snap a picture so I'll be doing later today after I clean or replace throttle body.
Ok so I'll redo the test, but this time I'll put it under load by giving it some gas while brake is depressed. I actually tried that last night and it returned to normal, but I didn't snap a picture so I'll be doing later today after I clean or replace throttle body.
BIG thank you bro
if you give it to much gas it will return back to full advance ( 0degrees )- this is normal for engine power . Note on the later model 5.4 3 valve the low power rpm (cruising speed) is when phasers are most active controlling EGR operation.
10-09-2022, 01:12 AM
Help with forSCAN screenshots please.
