Any thoughts on the new commercial for the synthetic oil?
#51
There have been numerous studies out by independent agencies that test oils and all pretty much agree with Consumer Reports and the taxi cab study. Engines that went 30,000 and even 60,000 miles without an oil change showed no appreciable wear differences than those changed every 3,000 miles (and they used micrometers and calipers to measure all wearable points in the engines.)
My wife has a 2012 Honda Civic with 180,000 miles. Owned it since new. Change the oil every 14,000 miles and it runs perfect. She sold her Honda Accord after she put 200,000 miles on it. Changed the oil every 15,000 miles. Her daughter drives it now, it currently is knocking on 300,000 miles and she goes up to 20,000 between oil changes. Engine is perfect.
Personally I go by the vehicles computer. For my 2015 Ford Focus it is about 7,500 miles. I use standard Motorcraft.
If it makes you feel good to change the oil, go for it. I have three new Fords all with the Lifetime Warranty and my dealer recommends 7,500 between oil changes or "whatever the computer tells you".
My wife has a 2012 Honda Civic with 180,000 miles. Owned it since new. Change the oil every 14,000 miles and it runs perfect. She sold her Honda Accord after she put 200,000 miles on it. Changed the oil every 15,000 miles. Her daughter drives it now, it currently is knocking on 300,000 miles and she goes up to 20,000 between oil changes. Engine is perfect.
Personally I go by the vehicles computer. For my 2015 Ford Focus it is about 7,500 miles. I use standard Motorcraft.
If it makes you feel good to change the oil, go for it. I have three new Fords all with the Lifetime Warranty and my dealer recommends 7,500 between oil changes or "whatever the computer tells you".
#52
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There have been numerous studies out by independent agencies that test oils and all pretty much agree with Consumer Reports and the taxi cab study. Engines that went 30,000 and even 60,000 miles without an oil change showed no appreciable wear differences than those changed every 3,000 miles (and they used micrometers and calipers to measure all wearable points in the engines.)
My wife has a 2012 Honda Civic with 180,000 miles. Owned it since new. Change the oil every 14,000 miles and it runs perfect. She sold her Honda Accord after she put 200,000 miles on it. Changed the oil every 15,000 miles. Her daughter drives it now, it currently is knocking on 300,000 miles and she goes up to 20,000 between oil changes. Engine is perfect.
Personally I go by the vehicles computer. For my 2015 Ford Focus it is about 7,500 miles. I use standard Motorcraft.
If it makes you feel good to change the oil, go for it. I have three new Fords all with the Lifetime Warranty and my dealer recommends 7,500 between oil changes or "whatever the computer tells you".
My wife has a 2012 Honda Civic with 180,000 miles. Owned it since new. Change the oil every 14,000 miles and it runs perfect. She sold her Honda Accord after she put 200,000 miles on it. Changed the oil every 15,000 miles. Her daughter drives it now, it currently is knocking on 300,000 miles and she goes up to 20,000 between oil changes. Engine is perfect.
Personally I go by the vehicles computer. For my 2015 Ford Focus it is about 7,500 miles. I use standard Motorcraft.
If it makes you feel good to change the oil, go for it. I have three new Fords all with the Lifetime Warranty and my dealer recommends 7,500 between oil changes or "whatever the computer tells you".
LOL Come on now! This is an 04-08 forum. We don't have fancy computers to tell us what the oil life is.... Also these engines have notorious oil pressure problems. I said before any vehicle other than this truck I see no reason that an annual change with an acceptable oil would be a problem.
#53
Senior Member
I religiously changed the oil in my 2005 Explorer every 3k-5k miles, even when I was a broke college kid. In 2013, I acquired a 2004 BMW M3 and after scouring the forums and the owners manual and talking to the dealership, I learned that the oil only needed to be changed at the service interval (~12k miles). That took some getting used to. Now both my Challenger and F-150 get oil changes when the light comes on. My Challenger is at my parents' house right now, and my dad refuses to listen when I say "change the oil when the light comes on" and he changes it every 3k-5k miles or 3 months. Whatever, its his $$$...
#54
Monks
I religiously changed the oil in my 2005 Explorer every 3k-5k miles, even when I was a broke college kid. In 2013, I acquired a 2004 BMW M3 and after scouring the forums and the owners manual and talking to the dealership, I learned that the oil only needed to be changed at the service interval (~12k miles). That took some getting used to. Now both my Challenger and F-150 get oil changes when the light comes on. My Challenger is at my parents' house right now, and my dad refuses to listen when I say "change the oil when the light comes on" and he changes it every 3k-5k miles or 3 months. Whatever, its his $$$...
I love doing extended OCI's when the vehicle allows me to. The issue for me is that me majority of us with the 11th gen trucks don't go past the 5k interval. The timing components tend to not like extended intervals. So, in my book, this oil serves no purpose for me.
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Because I saved myself over 20 years of oil changes and all that cast off oil that had to be disposed. I mowed a lot of grass with that mower and in the end, it was ethanol that killed it. It just wasn't worth replacing the carb on it so it went to the dump. It didn't owe me anything.
By the way, I run avgas in all my lawn equipment and portable generator now. No ethanol, 100 octane low lead and I mix it for the chain saw and leaf blower. It's more expensive than pump gas but I can't buy no ethanol gas anywhere within 50 miles of me. Never any problems now with leaving that gas in the equipment in the off-season.
By the way, I run avgas in all my lawn equipment and portable generator now. No ethanol, 100 octane low lead and I mix it for the chain saw and leaf blower. It's more expensive than pump gas but I can't buy no ethanol gas anywhere within 50 miles of me. Never any problems now with leaving that gas in the equipment in the off-season.
There are a few stations around me that sell Premium gas with no ethanol at all. I'll think I'll use that in my new Honda mower I'm getting
#56
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There have been numerous studies out by independent agencies that test oils and all pretty much agree with Consumer Reports and the taxi cab study. Engines that went 30,000 and even 60,000 miles without an oil change showed no appreciable wear differences than those changed every 3,000 miles (and they used micrometers and calipers to measure all wearable points in the engines.)
The reason I ask is that much of the information I've read on VCT issues relate to things other than OCI of synthetic oil, such as broken locking pins, a tendency to leak oil out of the center of the oil pump which leads to reduced flow, broken roll pins, and VCT solenoid failure.
#57
Monks
I have no empirical evidence on hand at the moment. However, the principle of varnish creation is the reason that the VCT's tend to fail. Extended OCI's are known to increase the risk of varnish build up. Thus, reducing the OCI to 5k with a quality oil, reduces that risk significantly.
#58
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