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Old 03-17-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by heydave
These motors do run great,I can run side by side with a mustang I’ve done it with a few, but i myself like to make my own when possible. Not only does it save me 200$ I can Make it however I like and if I decide later on I don’t like it I can toss it out no big deal.
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:35 AM
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Yes in fact it did happen, no one asks you to give us your thoughts about something you don’t know and probably don’t even have a truck like us it looks like you have a ranger so stick to that and leave the big trucks to us thanks.
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Still a mustang.

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Old 03-17-2019, 11:42 AM
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A buddy of mine has a 2004 mustang with the 4.6 and we raced and he could not pull away from me we stayed side by side the whole time, I’m not here for people to tell me oh that didn’t happen I wanted to know about the intake idea, I know what my truck will do and has done so let’s just get back to the intake idea
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Lol this is awesome. A 300 hp 6000 lb brick (20 lb/hp) that keeps up with a 260 hp 3700 lb car (14 lb/hp). To do this, the intake would have to add ~130 hp.

Sounds like the Mustang is junk. Or the driver is junk. These trucks are many things, but quick isn't one of them.

I agree: back to facts of the thread.

Double filters would flow horrible. Why???

A hard 90* would further slow down flow.

Are you asking if you can put an air filter between the grill and the radiator? The stock filter drawer is a known source of vacuum leaks, so if removing that filter and not addressing the leak sources, be prepared for lean codes and diminishing returns.

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No I’m not saying the intake gives that much power I have the stock intake with only the gotts mod done but I know the weight and power differences but it’s true I’ve raced 3 different mustangs with 3 different drives all 3 of different years and both 4.6 mustangs we just stayed side by side one was 5 speed the other auto then the last mustang was a 08 I believe and I pulled away from him like it was nothing. Just because your truck doesn’t run as good as mine doesn’t mean it’s not possible because I’ve done it I know for sure
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Originally Posted by dukedkt442
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... The stock filter drawer is a known source of vacuum leaks, so if removing that filter and not addressing the leak sources, be prepared for lean codes and diminishing returns.
A real close inspection of the stock design will reveal that leaks -in / around- the filter / filter box is ahead of the MAF sensor and will NOT result in lean codes. Also, the Intake Air Temperature sensor is an intregral part of the Mass Air Flow Sensor. Thus, air fuel ratios are basically compensated for irrespective of intake air temperature.

Having said that - my reasons for striving for cooler air in the intake are not power / fuel economy or otherwise. I guess it just bothers me to see IAT at 130 - 140 degrees on a hot summer day here in South Texas. PCM would have to be operating on the outer fringe of a number of OBDII formulas. When I pull away from a long red light on a hot summer day, It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to see the IAT slowly drop from 120-140 back down to Ambient temp within a couple of blocks - even though I know the air under the hood (and under the finder picking up heat from break disks, asphault, etc) is considerably above ambient. That's all.



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Here is another air intake opinion. If you're not removing the factory box that has the filter drawer you are not really accomplishing anything. You can have all the smooth pipe you want in front that box. But, the air becomes turbulent as soon as it hits that box.

Now the intake that I posted earlier. While not cheap, but is a lot cheaper than many other CAI systems out there. It has smooth transitions all the way to the throttle body, and an adapter that lift the throttle body off the manifold. That helps keep and/or improve torque while the smoother, free flowing air helps to improve horsepower.

You can definitely pick up colder air by piping it in from the inner fender, but be careful not to pick up water as well. Now, what's the temp change going to be once it hits that hot box sitting on top of the motor? Remember heat raises and it's trapped under the hood.

In the end it's still a heavy truck with an outdated motor.
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I like that setup like you said once your driving it cools down and that’s what I want, the way you have it setup it’s basically a ram air now so no matter what temp is under the hood it’s not going to heat the air flowing through up before it reaches the motor it’s being forced in the intake so it doesn’t have time to heat up unless you stop but like He said after taking off it cools back down so that’s showing his design works
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Originally Posted by heydave
Yes in fact it did happen, no one asks you to give us your thoughts about something you don’t know and probably don’t even have a truck like us it looks like you have a ranger so stick to that and leave the big trucks to us thanks.
You got me. Here's my 2007 Ranger 4.0l v6. Just cooling it down. Been blowing Hellcat doors off all day.

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