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Indyoshi 02-12-2017 09:46 PM

About to pull my hair out...Any ideas?
 
First post, sorry if it's in the wrong place and that it's so long.

So I was towing my boat and got the flashing check engine light and misfire. Went and got the codes and it was lean in bank one and misfire in cylinder 3 (p0171, p0203, p0303). I changed the fuel injector, plug, and coil on cylinder 3 and noticed a vacuum hose was bad and replaced that. I also replaced the MAS. The check engine light is now off and doesn't flash, but the truck seems to misfire when in idle and under a load (slowly accelerating from 60+mph). I used the cab cleaner method to look for leaks, but didn't find any. I hooked up a pressure gauge to the passenger side vacuum tube and at idle it's 14" Hg. When revving to 3k rpm it dropped to 13" Hg. I then tested the vacuum at the air intake on the driver's side and it read 22.5" Hg at idle. So, I thought it might be a plugged cat converter or exhaust. I took the cat converters off and upon startup it was still idling rough intermittently. I also replaced the fuel filter and it seems fuel pressure if fine, but the stupid kit I got doesn't have an adapter to fit the fuel line that goes into the rail.

Where do I go next?
PCM?
DPFE sensor?
Head gasket?
Stuck valve?
Compression test?
Short in wiring harness? Where do I check?
Could other coils going bad cause the issue to persist even though no code is showing?

I prefer fixing myself, and usually do my own work, but I'm getting so frustrated chasing the issue. Still, there is no check engine light, so I can't tell if any codes were cleared or if there are new ones.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Indyoshi 02-12-2017 09:50 PM

Oh yeah...2006 5.4 4x4

techrep 02-13-2017 06:27 AM

Mileage? Last tune-up ?

Indyoshi 02-13-2017 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by techrep (Post 5181879)
Mileage? Last tune-up ?

135k mi. Oil change 2k ago. Plugs and coils 1.5 years ago (15k mi)

Kevinpmac 02-13-2017 08:23 AM

My gut says compression test to rule out valvetrain and internal before throwing any more money at it

BadFish523 02-13-2017 09:10 AM

Do you have an Android phone or tablet? If so you can use it to very easily tell if there is actually a misfire.

redfishtd 02-13-2017 09:27 AM

homemade smoke machine on you tube
 
for more testing of vacuum circuit , I made mine out of a 1 gallon new paint can,duct tape,schrader valve . some fittings and a pack of cheap cigarelos-- pump a little air pressure in can into brake hose fitting with clear tygon to see flow of smoke . My leak was a defective purge solenoid . Took me three burns to get it done .
I would look at number 3 injector plug ,clean it and see if signal getting there .Scope would be nice or volt meter .
Did you clean snout area of sparkplug in cyl with carb cleaner . carbon build up causes problems . Can break new plug .
Did you use new boots and dielectric grease .
Any chance that when you disturbed orings on fuel injectors lifting rail that they are dirty or sucking air , usually use engine oil on rings after cleaning holes .

Indyoshi 02-13-2017 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by StephenG (Post 5182033)
Do you have an Android phone or tablet? If so you can use it to very easily tell if there is actually a misfire.


Yes. How?

Martian 02-13-2017 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Indyoshi (Post 5182085)
Yes. How?

Torque Pro.

Indyoshi 02-13-2017 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by redfishtd (Post 5182058)
for more testing of vacuum circuit , I made mine out of a 1 gallon new paint can,duct tape,schrader valve . some fittings and a pack of cheap cigarelos-- pump a little air pressure in can into brake hose fitting with clear tygon to see flow of smoke . My leak was a defective purge solenoid . Took me three burns to get it done .
I would look at number 3 injector plug ,clean it and see if signal getting there .Scope would be nice or volt meter .
Did you clean snout area of sparkplug in cyl with carb cleaner . carbon build up causes problems . Can break new plug .
Did you use new boots and dielectric grease .
Any chance that when you disturbed orings on fuel injectors lifting rail that they are dirty or sucking air , usually use engine oil on rings after cleaning holes .


Yes I used new boots and springs. I vacuumed out the plug hole before and after removing the plug, but didn't spray any carb cleaner in it. I might have a bad seal on the injectors, but no change in rpm when spraying each with carb cleaner while running


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