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Old 04-28-2019, 05:31 PM
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No I’m not being sarcastic but I may have used the wrong word. Yes I have a 17’ 5.0 but I also have a 98 5.4 and an 05 5.4. The 5.0 and 5.4 and just different animals. In my experience the 5.4 has better off idle torque and pulling power. The 5.0 is “faster” I’m sure but the 5.4 is just a great truck engine. How many times has ford used the same engine from 150-350? I’m sure more than once but the 5.4 comes to mind. At any rate I would just replace with a 5.4 and save yourself the headache
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The 5.4 is superior, why would you guys even want a 5.0?
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No I’m not being sarcastic but I may have used the wrong word. Yes I have a 17’ 5.0 but I also have a 98 5.4 and an 05 5.4. The 5.0 and 5.4 and just different animals. In my experience the 5.4 has better off idle torque and pulling power. The 5.0 is “faster” I’m sure but the 5.4 is just a great truck engine. How many times has ford used the same engine from 150-350? I’m sure more than once but the 5.4 comes to mind. At any rate I would just replace with a 5.4 and save yourself the headache
I would love to have a 5.4 but that engine had to many problems. I’m not dead set on swapping a 5.0 into my truck and if I do it will be years down the road. If the 5.4 didn’t have so many problems I would go with that engine in a heartbeat
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How many times has ford used the same engine from 150-350? I’m sure more than once but the 5.4 comes to mind.
The 300 I-6 comes to my mind first.

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I would love to have a 5.4 but that engine had to many problems. I’m not dead set on swapping a 5.0 into my truck and if I do it will be years down the road. If the 5.4 didn’t have so many problems I would go with that engine in a heartbeat
Tell that to the numerous members with well over 200k or 300k on their original rotating assemblings in their 5.4s... no matter what you're looking at an ECM and wiring harness swap. Not worth the money or time involved, there's no unique factor. Since you'd have to swap harness, go with a 4.6 or 5.4 2v if you're worried about timing parts. My '97 4x4 Flareside 4.6 5 speed was posted in the picture thread and was quite the fun truck with "only" the 4.6.
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Originally Posted by dukedkt442
The 300 I-6 comes to my mind first.



Tell that to the numerous members with well over 200k or 300k on their original rotating assemblings in their 5.4s... no matter what you're looking at an ECM and wiring harness swap. Not worth the money or time involved, there's no unique factor. Since you'd have to swap harness, go with a 4.6 or 5.4 2v if you're worried about timing parts. My '97 4x4 Flareside 4.6 5 speed was posted in the picture thread and was quite the fun truck with "only" the 4.6.
I realize it isn’t budget friendly and it’s not an easy job but it’s something I’m willing to take on if I decide to do so. Also I would never swap a 4.6 into my truck because it makes similar power to the 4.2. It makes 40 hp more and 30 more torque. It’s not worth it to swap that motor. If you know what you’re doing a 5.0 swap shouldn’t be as hard to swap as you guys are making it to be.
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If a gt500 motor can be swapped into a crown Vic then I’m pretty sure a 5.0 can be swapped into a f150
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I’m not knocking you at all brother. If you want to do the swap then go for it. I for one like doing unique things because of the learning process involved. If you decide to do it, keep this thread alive and post progress to it.
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wasn't plugs the only issue with the 5.4? i had all mine done and never had a problem.. only issue i had was my transmission went at 150k
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
wasn't plugs the only issue with the 5.4? i had all mine done and never had a problem.. only issue i had was my transmission went at 150k
There were a lot of issues other than plugs such as cam phasers. However I’m sure you can get a lot of miles out of a 5.4 if you take care of it but that’s the case for all engines. I just find it to be an inferior engine to the 5.0 and I don’t want to deal with those issues if they decide to pop up during any part of my ownership
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Originally Posted by KingDeleted
The 5.4 is superior, why would you guys even want a 5.0?
I agree
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Getting a junkyard 5.4, manifolds, and y/cat pipes, ECU, et.c and bulletproofing the engine will cost a literal Metric Buttload less and be easier than putting in the 5.0. Once you get a few things taken care of the 5.4's are solid; the engineers and accountants got too cheap in a couple of places, and it's pretty easy to take care of it after you get the front cover and valve covers off.


Then again, I'd love to pull mine for a 6.2 or V10...


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