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Old 01-27-2017, 05:40 PM
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2005 Ford F-150 & FX4 Audio Wiring Radio Diagram Schematic Colors
Car Radio Constant 12v+ Wire: Light Green/Violet
Car Stereo Ground Wire: Black/Green or Black
Car Radio Ignition Switched Wire: Light Green/Yellow or Pink/Black @ Radio Harness
Car Stereo VSS Speed Wire: Gray/Black @ Main Radio Plug
Car Stereo Reverse Wire + : Pink/Black or Green/Yellow @ Driver door sill harness
Car Stereo Dimmer Wire: Light Blue/Red @ Main Radio Harness
Car Radio Illumination Wire: Brown (Park Lights) @ Driver door sill harness
Car Stereo Power Antenna:
Car Radio Amp Turn On Wire: Dark Green/Violet @ Smaller Amp Plug behind radio
Left Front Speaker Wire (+) Positive: Orange/Light Green
Left Front Speaker Wire (-) Negative: Light Blue/White
Right Front Speaker Wire (+) Positive: White/Light Green
Right Front Speaker Wire (-) Negative: Dark Green/Orange
Left Rear Speaker Wire (+) Positive: Gray/Light Blue
Left Rear Speaker Wire (-) Negative: Tan/Yellow
Right Rear Speaker Wire (+) Positive: Orange/Red
Right Rear Speaker Wire (-) Negative: Brown/Pink
Center Channel Speaker Wire Positive / Negative: N/A
Subwoofer Speaker Wire Positive / Negative: Brown/Orange & Red/Black


Looks like the dark green/violet wire is the one that runs to the amp in the truck to tell it to turn on. That is the wire that you will want to run to the amp remote wire off the back of the Jensen HU. I wouldn't attach the shield or mute wires from the truck to anything just seal them off so they don't short to anything else.
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Originally Posted by StephenG View Post
Looks like the dark green/violet wire is the one that runs to the amp in the truck to tell it to turn on. That is the wire that you will want to run to the amp remote wire off the back of the Jensen HU. I wouldn't attach the shield or mute wires from the truck to anything just seal them off so they don't short to anything else.
That's what I don't get though. I understand the sub -/+ and turn on wire coming from the OEM sub harness. I'm assuming the black wire coming from the OEM harness is ground. I've done more research and it is said that black wire in the OEM Ford harness is a "shield" wire or "drain" wire that may or may not be used. If the Metra harness I bought to reattach the connector to the OEM Ford harness has four wires that need to be connected, then why would that not work? Do you happen to have your factory subwoofer harness (smallest connector out of the three behind the HU)? And if so, can you tell me which pins or row they are in and the order? Because if it would match up to the Metra harness I bought to reattach the cut off OEM sub harness connector, then why shouldn't those wires carry out the OEM function? Just because they claim the Metra harness has a shield and mute wire, doesn't mean it what it needs to be used for right?

I don't want to be redundant but I feel visuals may help us think of a solution easier and since a Ford dealership can reattach the cut off connector then it shouldn't be impossible for us to either

I need to know how these four wires are situated in the factory male connector(which has been cut off these four wires and also can't seem to find a diagram drawing schematic for):



Because I'm trying to wire this male connector to the OEM four wires above^^:



Since eventually I want to plug the above newly connected Metra male end into the receiving female end of the HU Metra:



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Miraculously I now found the official Ford part number and kit on their parts store for that harness and it looks like the exact one as Metra. Ford wants $52 for the harness kit though. Because they're essentially both the same connector, I feel like the Metra 71-5520-1 harness should work.

This is the OEM part# for the connector as identified on Motorcraft/Ford: WPT 219



And then here's the kit on Ford's website:

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Originally Posted by Kristof Ferenczi View Post
Miraculously I now found the official Ford part number and kit on their parts store for that harness and it looks like the exact one as Metra. Ford wants $52 for the harness kit though. Because they're essentially both the same connector, I feel like the Metra 71-5520-1 harness should work.

This is the OEM part# for the connector as identified on Motorcraft/Ford: WPT 219



And then here's the kit on Ford's website:

Metra Is the same harness. I will see if I can get into mine later but I don't know if I'll have time. I understand you want to connect all 4 wires on the male plug but the female Metra plug you will just seal off the wires on it then. There will be nothing on the aftermarket HU to wire those wires to. I'm try to get a picture later if I can.
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Originally Posted by StephenG View Post
Metra Is the same harness. I will see if I can get into mine later but I don't know if I'll have time. I understand you want to connect all 4 wires on the male plug but the female Metra plug you will just seal off the wires on it then. There will be nothing on the aftermarket HU to wire those wires to. I'm try to get a picture later if I can.
That'd be a big help! No worries of you can't tonight. The Metra 71-5520-1 harness installation PDF says:

RED / YELLOW STRIPE BLACK -Sub spkr (+)
BLACK -sub speaker (-)
BLACK -shield
RED -sub mute

Someone on the forums wrote that fords OEM sub plug is wired to these pins:

Pin 1: Sub signal (+)
Pin 2: Sub signal (-)
Pin 3: Amp remote turn on
Pin 4: shield

So I'll have to compare the pin locations so I don't accidentally short a hot to a ground (black shield to pin 3 amp turn on). What Metra doesn't specify, is what each color wire corresponds to what number Pin. So this is tough!
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Oh and idk if you knew or not, but the two harnesses you just quoted above me are both the Ford ones. I was just showing the part number and connector then below it is what Ford offered as a kit. So is the Metra 71-5520-1 still the same one as Ford's 3U2Z-14S411-DLA ?
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Yeah you'll just have to compare pin locations. The Metra plug and the ford plug used in that location will be the same thing maybe just different color wires. Also in my experience the shield wire is just to prevent electrical interference. The mute wire I don't know exactly how that fits in the system.
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Originally Posted by StephenG View Post
Yeah you'll just have to compare pin locations. The Metra plug and the ford plug used in that location will be the same thing maybe just different color wires. Also in my experience the shield wire is just to prevent electrical interference. The mute wire I don't know exactly how that fits in the system.
Oh okay good good. I was assuming the mute wire (whatever tf that is) will just be the wire I splice to the green/violet amp turn on wire. Seeing how I'll be splicing the blue/white wires from the sub adapter to my head unit. I love how complicated this is
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Lol they're actually real easy as long as some ******* doesn't cut the factory clip off
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Lol they're actually real easy as long as some ******* doesn't cut the factory clip off
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