2004 F150 LED or HID?
07-03-2017, 07:15 PM
#31
Too bad Lenn doesn't have an F-150 lol... booo Lenn.
Well we don't pay for return shipping on items, that's up to the customer to pay for. Basic business stuff. So if you ever want to try them out you are welcome to. But if you want to return them you have to pay for return shipping.
I don't think anybody has ever taken me up on the "your money back" after trying our bulbs. I've had a few folks who did that for the D1/D2/D3/D4 BUT that's because those were retrofits on the HID ones and they had issues getting the wiring to work. Other then that... everybody who's tried them seems to like them. I think i've only had 1 negative review on amazon and that was from a guy with a Nissan Frontier who tried 12 other products (I could have told him the nissan frontiers are TERRIBLE since I had a nissan frontier and know first hand those trucks don't work with ANYTHING aftermarket)
Well we don't pay for return shipping on items, that's up to the customer to pay for. Basic business stuff. So if you ever want to try them out you are welcome to. But if you want to return them you have to pay for return shipping.
I don't think anybody has ever taken me up on the "your money back" after trying our bulbs. I've had a few folks who did that for the D1/D2/D3/D4 BUT that's because those were retrofits on the HID ones and they had issues getting the wiring to work. Other then that... everybody who's tried them seems to like them. I think i've only had 1 negative review on amazon and that was from a guy with a Nissan Frontier who tried 12 other products (I could have told him the nissan frontiers are TERRIBLE since I had a nissan frontier and know first hand those trucks don't work with ANYTHING aftermarket)
07-03-2017, 07:19 PM
#32
Administrator
Originally Posted by 4x4TruckLEDS.com
Too bad Lenn doesn't have an F-150 lol... booo Lenn.
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Martian (07-05-2017)
07-03-2017, 07:20 PM
#33
Senior Member
It's fine...
I just don't feel I should have to spend $10 just to offer an eval, or to compare it to a product I just purchases when I was completely happy with it.
It's not the $10 (or whatever the actual cost is), it's the principle. Like I said, if I liked them I would just keep them while having paid for them (free product would add a hint of bias, regardless of whether it was true or not).
Anyway, you have your reasons, and it's cool. Not taking it personally; The only reason I brought it up was it seemed a bit hypocritical to ask another vendor to do something you were unwilling to do.
I just don't feel I should have to spend $10 just to offer an eval, or to compare it to a product I just purchases when I was completely happy with it.
It's not the $10 (or whatever the actual cost is), it's the principle. Like I said, if I liked them I would just keep them while having paid for them (free product would add a hint of bias, regardless of whether it was true or not).
Anyway, you have your reasons, and it's cool. Not taking it personally; The only reason I brought it up was it seemed a bit hypocritical to ask another vendor to do something you were unwilling to do.
07-03-2017, 07:24 PM
#36
It's fine...
I just don't feel I should have to spend $10 just to offer an eval, or to compare it to a product I just purchases when I was completely happy with it.
It's not the $10 (or whatever the actual cost is), it's the principle. Like I said, if I liked them I would just keep them while having paid for them (free product would add a hint of bias, regardless of whether it was true or not).
Anyway, you have your reasons, and it's cool. Not taking it personally; The only reason I brought it up was it seemed a bit hypocritical to ask another vendor to do something you were unwilling to do.
I just don't feel I should have to spend $10 just to offer an eval, or to compare it to a product I just purchases when I was completely happy with it.
It's not the $10 (or whatever the actual cost is), it's the principle. Like I said, if I liked them I would just keep them while having paid for them (free product would add a hint of bias, regardless of whether it was true or not).
Anyway, you have your reasons, and it's cool. Not taking it personally; The only reason I brought it up was it seemed a bit hypocritical to ask another vendor to do something you were unwilling to do.
If you buy our product and truly are unhappy and contact us right away, we'd allow you to return it for a refund. But as I said, you're going to have to pay to ship it to us... that's just how business works.
We're not lookig for anybody to evaluate our product... we've sold thousands upon thousands of units that our customers speak on our behalf. I'm not offering you an "evaluation" hold on your CC... i'm saying if you don't like our product you can return it
07-03-2017, 07:32 PM
#37
Senior Member
I don't really know any vendor/company that would let you return a light after you used it AND pay for return shipping... other then Zappos, but I don't think you can wear the shoes and return them.
If you buy our product and truly are unhappy and contact us right away, we'd allow you to return it for a refund. But as I said, you're going to have to pay to ship it to us... that's just how business works.
We're not lookig for anybody to evaluate our product... we've sold thousands upon thousands of units that our customers speak on our behalf. I'm not offering you an "evaluation" hold on your CC... i'm saying if you don't like our product you can return it
If you buy our product and truly are unhappy and contact us right away, we'd allow you to return it for a refund. But as I said, you're going to have to pay to ship it to us... that's just how business works.
We're not lookig for anybody to evaluate our product... we've sold thousands upon thousands of units that our customers speak on our behalf. I'm not offering you an "evaluation" hold on your CC... i'm saying if you don't like our product you can return it
My intent was not to benefit from your product. I've had multiple products that were sent to me for review with return postage, or even for free (although again, the "free" part tends to taint an "unbiased" review as I would be benefiting, regardless if the "free" wasn't tied to a positive review). So I wouldn't think it was that uncommon.
I was not looking to purchase your product. If I were, your standard money back guarantee was certainly good enough for me. Remember, it was YOU who jumped in and told me the product I purchased was crap and that yours was far superior -- I didn't come to you, and to me that's a significant distinction.
But let's drop our part of the discussion as for me that's settled and see if we can get some kind of shootout going.. This thread is lively and I like it!
Last edited by hahanson; 07-03-2017 at 07:44 PM.
07-03-2017, 11:24 PM
#38
Senior Member
I wouldn't be making the claims if I don't have the products and know how to back it up. I asked you for your shipping address and you never sent it to me over pm. How exactly can I prove you wrong if you don't even give me a chance. Why do you insist on talking like this about me when you don't know me or my products. You just keep coming after me on every post I create, just like summers22 and it's just the two of you. We have to get off subject, every time. You don't even respect your fellow members. I invite every single one of you to stay on subject and for everyone to get along. Personally, I'm not here to argue with anyone.
Look, I will leave you alone. I'm not interested in testing any lights though. I'm happy with what I have.
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Vanquish Auto (07-03-2017)
07-04-2017, 12:41 AM
#39
Get whatever LED kit they are throwing at you, run them for a few days after you install them and get back to me. I will get you something better for the same price and you can do a side by side comparison so you can show the forum about a few aspects we want to discuss in depth with actual customer/ forum member input.
If you would get to know me just a little bit you would find out I'm not like what you thought. I'm sorry I gave you the wrong idea and I hope I can help you change your mind. I'm not trying to be a know it all or say my stuff is better. That's not the message I've been trying to send. On the contrary you can ask other members that already placed some orders this week and I have told every single one of them we are here for the long run and to make great connections with everyone.
Why did you just contradict yourself?