06 lariet worth it
#21
Senior Member
Try hauling a non-aerodynamic tool trailer 8,000lbs 7-days a week and you'd be wishing you had 300HP and 365lb-ft of torque. Not going to start a debate about which motor is better, there are enough threads on this forum and many others about that. But you pick what you need, and whether the 4.6 2V is underpowered or not all up to the owner. I have the 5.4 3V and I love it. I had the spark plug issue, did it all by myself (thanks to Kozal01 and Goldteam) and have no cam phaser issues. But even when I compare my F-150 to my Ram 1500, the Triton is underpowered compared to the Hemi simply because of the F-150's sheer weight. I can't imagine what I would be able to do with a 4.6 2V. If the smaller motor suits you, cool. But for the rest of us who require the added muscle, the 5.4 3V is the way to go. And if that isn't enough then it's time to switch over to a Dodge with the Hemi.
I don't expect fuel economy to be great on any truck, but we all want to stretch our dollar since fuel is a major part of the operating cost of a vehicle. Also, I know what I'm doing when hauling/towing and I need a Whipple supercharger on my 5.4 3V. I don't know what kind of weight you're hauling but I haul daily and the truck never complains, but it never pulls like my Ram 1500. I'd like to see a 4.6 2V do the same thing that I do as easily as I do while using the same amount of fuel as I do. Simply wouldn't happen, the smaller motor would have to struggle to get the same load up the same hill. If my 5.4 3V has to work harder than my 5.7 Hemi, then I'm certain a 4.6 2V would be out of breath.
Hope thing work out with your truck choice, and everything falls into place. If you do happen to make the switch to a Dodge, skip the crappy 3.7 V6 and get the Hemi, and be sure to get an earlier model without the multiple displacement system as they are very unreliable. As far as Chevy is concerned, their trucks are ugly inside and out.
#22
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#23
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hemi dodges are junk. i smoke my buddies 07 dodge with my wifes 08 f150 from dead dig and from roll. one of my customers has a 2500 dodge with a hemi and he hates it he gets 8mpg unloaded and 3.5mpg with his 14foot enclosed trailer, my wife consistantly get 16+ outa her 08, i like the 4.6 but it is a sled compared to 5.4 ive done the plugs in the wifes truck not too bad i soaked them with liquid wrech then drove it a week the pulled plugs i only broke one and i had the tool to get that out,im very picky about oil changes and at 98k the phazers are perfect, my buddy has a 04 5.4 with 200k hes strict about 3k oil changes never has had a phazer issue
I have a 3.93s in my Ram 1500 and 3.73s in my F-150, both with limited slip differentials. My Ram 1500 has 285/65R20s with BFG All Terrain T/As and my F-150 has 285/65R18s with Firestone Transforce ATs. I use mid-grade fuel with my Hemi and regular fuel with my Triton. With the same trailer going the same distance on the same roads with the same weather conditions the Ford must work harder than the Dodge to get the trailer going. Not just from a dead stop, but overtaking maneuvers as well.
Very few people outside of the automotive editors and evaluators get a chance to compare two similarly set-up competitive vehicles using real-life conditions. The end result is the Ram is a better truck for work and the F-150 is much easier to live with.
Back on topic, get whatever motor you feel suits your needs and good luck!
#24
We have a 04 expedition eb and a 04 f150 lariat. The Expedition is 2v 5.4 w/ 180k and 3v F150 has 125k. No probs with the Expedition. On the F150 couple plugs broke a few thousand miles ago. Phaser click a little on cold starts, but its been doing that since 50k mi. Hasnt affected it. Dont even notice it since a super 10 muffler.
I will never go to a 4.6. We occasionally tow cattle and flatbed trailers w/ cattle, bulls, 4 dirt bikes and a atv, full of household appliances, pallets of seed. I think youll miss the torque. We get 17 hwy empty and average 13 since we have lot of town driving and idling cause of winter.
I will never go to a 4.6. We occasionally tow cattle and flatbed trailers w/ cattle, bulls, 4 dirt bikes and a atv, full of household appliances, pallets of seed. I think youll miss the torque. We get 17 hwy empty and average 13 since we have lot of town driving and idling cause of winter.
#25
2005 XLT F150
Thread Starter
I even thought of looking at a 07 tundra 5.7 32 valve 385 HP. 405 torque. A buddy of mine at work has one Even that motor rattles a little also. But has more ***** than ford or Dodge. And gas mileage sux in that also.. still not like my last car 96 cobra I traded."sniffle". If I traded my current f150 I don't think I'll buy another. 04 -08 I would buy and 09 + but not in my price range..
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#26
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I even thought of looking at a 07 tundra 5.7 32 valve 385 HP. 405 torque. A buddy of mine at work has one Even that motor rattles a little also. But has more ***** than ford or Dodge. And gas mileage sux in that also.. still not like my last car 96 cobra I traded."sniffle". If I traded my current f150 I don't think I'll buy another. 04 -08 I would buy and 09 + but not in my price range..
#27
2005 XLT F150
Thread Starter
If I don't get things sorted out gonna look at the tundra... gonna do a compression check when I get the fitting for the plug hole... if compression is good on that bank I'm suspecting timing issues.. in the day I had my issue I had an oil pressure issue now its normal once in a while I hear a rattle at 1200rpm. Don't know if its valves. Or a blown tensioners. Since they were replaced 6 months ago and it sill runs rough and drivers bank cat is on its way out