fringe_remnant

The need for proper winter tires in environments where freezing temperatures occur on dry or at best, slushy, pavement is well known, documented and advised. Anyone who does not heed this advice is taking on unnecessary risk. Unfortunately, they also pass that same risk on to other users of the read. It is irresponsible, and in some jurisdictions illegal, to run summer or 'all season' tires in the winter on any vehicle.

This is not opinion, but fact. And, if these same people keep on insisting that the discussion is about snowtires then they are completely missing the point. Its about rubber compound that reacts to cold in a way that is beneficial to traction, something no other tire can do.

FR

k8vf-Mark

All I have spoken to say the Winterforce is an excellent tire.

I couldn't find any locally, but got Goodyear Eagle ultra grips for my 2004 Grand marquis, 4 winters ago(4 wheels).....like being on rails at the 45th parallel...with 2005 factory wheels to boot.

Sorry if this is off topic, but my experience with the Ultra grips(not ice), over 4 winters is convincing me to do it again on my 2013 SCREW.

But around here, the Winterforce tire is loved by all I have spoken with.



k8vf
2013 SCREW
2004 Grand marquis

fringe_remnant

The Goodyear Ultra Ice has been getting great reviews over the last two years.. the rubber gets more pliable as the temperature drops. I got four myself.

FR
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Now, that's a truck....

lilcrazyone

Winter tires are defiantly ideal for Canada. We get a lot of snow in sask, record snow fall last year to boot. But I got some LT 275/65R18 Goodyear wrangler territory's for my truck last year, studded as well for all the damned ice. Defiantly better then the previous winter with the stock tires.

Mathieu650R

Just bought four Blizzak DM-V1 from Pmctire.ca, they're delivering anywhere in canada for free. 4 tires, 4 tpms, 4 ford oem steel rims, mounted and balanced and delivered to my door for 1559$ went with 265/70/17 summer lts are 275/65/18.

Could have got the yokohama IG51v for 20$ less per tire but I prefer the blizzak

rb250

I purchased a 2wd truck just because I use snow tires, don't need no 4x4
I use blizzaks 2756518 and factory wheels
I would venture out in any weather in my 2wd as any would in your 4x4s
for those who didn't like them not sure what you were hoping for it is still winter after all
I sell tires for a living and have this conversation all the time
people think they don't need snows and that's true but you car does
people think they can drive in snow, that's why there is never anybody in the ditch
the ability to go and stop is far greater then w all seasons
on this forum there are a lot of car guys with real nice cars and trucks
we all over spend on summer tires but are not willing to spend on winter tires
I live in mn, don't probably need snows all the time but when I do they are well worth the price
just a funny but my fav customer is the guy that comes in and spends 1000 for his snow set up and tell me his other car just needs all seasons because its just his kids car

Twobeers

If I may suggest. Check out BF Goodrich. I have heard that they are made by Michellin, correct me if heard wrong. Don't know if I am allowed to post a hyperlink here?
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.ca/tire-s...a/tire-details

I have found that the BF's are way better than say Wranglers in snow, ice & wet roads. They throw out the mud & snow between the groves much more readily. And don't seem to pick up screws & nails like the wranglers do.

Canadiantj

Picked up a lightly used set of winters on 20" oem chrome rims for $800 on Kijiji. Tires are Hercules Avalanche LT. Going to be mounted very shortly as the weather out in Southern Alberta has been cold and alot of slushy snow. No tpms but that is ok. The light will just remind me to check the pressure every fill up.

http://www.herculestire.com/tire-gal...-truck/winter/

vmpv

As the OP, I guess I better update this thread. After a lot of consideration, I went with the 265/70/17 X-Ice2 package on steel wheels and TPMS from the local Ford dealer. I checked around and really couldn't get a much better deal anywhere else.
I wanted to hold off posting a bit until I could try them out in real snow but here are my initial impressions.

I like them. They ride great. There may be a very slight humming noise at highway speed but I'm convinced that it is the result of the tires hugging the road instead of making occasional contact like my stock Pirelli's feel.
I have been driving around in cold wet weather (below 6C) and find them a lot more stable in cornering and am actually having a problem in determining just where the breaking point is so to speak

But at the end of the day I am a Michelin fanboy so take this review as such. I had a set of X-ice on my previous SUV that I found great both in handling and wear and I'm convinced a set of Harmony' saved my life when my car got totaled by a red light runner a number of years ago.
Since 95% of my driving is on pavement, I figure I can get away with an SUV tire rather than a truck tire so we'll see how that goes. Bring on the snow!

arent_we_sarcastic

Seems to me that most people with the Scorpions insist you need snows but the ones that have other brands seem to think you don't. More of a reflection of the cold weather ability of the Pirellis me thinks.